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Old 05-16-2007 | 09:13 AM
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I WOULD SAY NO BUT IF YOU CONTACT THE CO'S THE LANDOWNER HAS TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO RETREVE THE GAME, I THINK
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Old 05-16-2007 | 09:15 AM
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I liked your answer.....and used it to describe MY views, as well.
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Old 05-16-2007 | 09:18 AM
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I have been fortunate to never have been in that situation, but it is very possible. If I had been denied access to recover the deer I would call the game warden and see if he could recover it with the land owners permission, or call the police to see if it would be possible to have them help or ****** me on the property to recover the deer if the landowner was agreeable to that. I would do everything within my power to not let the deer just rot without disregarding the landowners wishes.
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Old 05-16-2007 | 09:22 AM
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I edited my response. The more I thought, the more I'm not sure. I do my best not to break the law.
I have to say that even though I've seen it happen to my Brother, I can't understand why someone wouldn't be willing to let you recover a wounded animal.
Sometimes I step back and wonder what's happened to everyone in the world. Where I grew up, people were friendly. Everyone would wave "hello" even when you met them on the highway. Strangers would invite you in for a cup of coffee or a glass of tea and try to get you to stay for dinner. Sure there was the occasional "jerk", but even HE was friendly by todays standards.
Of course, I understand that having poachers and vandals hit your land can turn someone the wrong way, but it doesn't mean that you have to go totally "anal" on the world.
Sorry. Just a sore spot with me... I'm done.

Oh yeah, and I love the bumper sticker: "Mean People Suck".
Mostly what I see is the total lack of respect for land owners that cause them to deny entrance. Land owners pay the taxes for every day of the year not just the few days of hunting season.They are the ones providing year round habitat for all wildlife. They put up with year round quad riders that are just "riding" thru. And of course the guys that put their tree stands on other peoples property because they thought the "line was over there"
Would you let a stranger borrow your truck for just a little while?Then why would you expect a stranger to let you use his land. Maybe not being a stranger would help your cause.

But maybe they just don't want you on their land.And beingthe land owner that is their right.

As far asbumper stickers go I like
"Trespassers will be shot survivors will be prosecuted!!"
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Old 05-16-2007 | 09:23 AM
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Would you also go into their home if you thought you would not get caught?
How about getting in their car for a look around?
Where does it stop ? What would it take to stop you ?
They said keep out what part of that are you missing.You have that little respect for the land owners around you?
Jim,
I edited my response before I saw this, and I made another post that sort of explains my point of view. Of course, it's just my point of view. It's just beyond me why someone wouldn't allow someone else to retrieve a dead animal. As I said, my brother encountered one land-owner like this, but Inever have. I'm sure there are folks outthere who feel that way, but I'll never live around them, and I'll always do my best to avoid them.
I understand your post, and the point you're making is clear. The law is the law. It kind of goes back to another post. Walking 10 yards acrossan unfenced"blue line" is just as illegal as climbing a 5 strand barbed wire fence that's posted every 10 feet. Speeding is just as illegal as a DUI. Throwing a cigarette butt out the window is just a illegal as throwing the morning garbage bag in the highway median. You asked where I draw the line, and that's a GOOD question that should make everyone step back, pause and think about it.

Hope you don't think I'm some sort of criminal degenerate now.


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Old 05-16-2007 | 09:26 AM
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Nope -
If he denied me the access to retreive my deer a simple gall to the conservation officer and he goes to retrive my deer. I still have the deer and no laws were broken
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Old 05-16-2007 | 09:29 AM
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schmuck online tells me.
I've been called worst

You may walk on someone's land whois not very nice. Until you own land you will not understand. It comes down to respect Quick on both ends. The land owner should respect your right to your deer, and you should respect him as the land owner.

Saying you will march on to someone's land shows a lack of respect IMO.

But I would just tell you to go get your deer
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Old 05-16-2007 | 09:29 AM
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All I know is, to pursue legal action, the landowner would have to catch me, which I can assure you, will never happen.

If I hunt all year toshoot a deer, and he's down, and I know where he's at, heWILL be going home with me, without question. There is no fence, posted line, river or lake that will stop me. If that means leaving for a while and coming back later in the dark or at a better time, then it is what it is.

But, with that said, there's nowhere that I hunt where the neighbors wouldn't let me go get my deer. I don't have much, but I do have people skills.
My thoughts exactly. Thats only if the landowner is being rediculous about it...Im a friendly guy and couldn't imagine getting a NO from the neighboring land owners. I think most will give you permission

I have heard though that you can contact the sheriff orwarden and they can go with you to retrieve your animal. Not sure how much truth there is to it, but...
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Old 05-16-2007 | 09:30 AM
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My take is the law must be followed. Laws aren't meant to be broken and are for the benefit of all. If the landowner was adamant that I not cross the line then I would be forced to abandon the animal. I believe in this state a Game Warden can be summoned who will assist you in finding the deer. The theory is that wild game belongs to the state not the landowner.
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Old 05-16-2007 | 09:30 AM
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GMMAT,

Where I hunt things are more relaxed. Although some hunting camps really dislike each other, and there are border wars, it is generally accepted that you can make a minimal incursion to retrieve a wounded deer.

In answer to your question, I'm not sure. It would depend if it was out in the middle of unmarked woods and I thought the deer was 25 yards on the other side or if I had to cross a posted fence to do it. I would probably not cross a posted fence. But like Hunsucker said, if its a trophy deer, that would be one of those thorny moral dilemmas
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