Why do you use a rangefinder?
#71
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From: NY
ORIGINAL: BigJ12
Jeff,
There is nothing wrong with Atlas's original statement either. I made bold the key word in his original statement. Who areyou (or anyone for that matter)to tellAtlaswhat he feels is a good reason?
For the record, I see no good reason why not to use one either.
Movement? If you wait to use your rangefinder until the deer is inside of 50yds you have more problems to worry about than a rangefinder because you have completely missed the "minimal movement" boat.
Not needed for short ranges? I find it hard to believe there are that many hunters out there who only have 20yd or less hunting spots. I have a couple but most have lanes out to 30-40yds. So to use the minority as a valid reason not to use a rangefinder is.........not valid.
Something else to carry into the woods?? I don't even know where to start with this one. If a few oz rangefinder is going to put you over the top than I suggest getting rid of something less important. I don't know of too much that is more important than securing a correct range of an animal you are about to kill.
So just as you think those are valid reasons I think they're not. But who am I to tell you what is a valid reason and what is not......see where I'm going with this.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
If you're referring to me, LC...That was FAR from the truth. I even basically thanked Atlas for rephrasing his initial comment. It was that type of comment I was seeking.
Atlas initially said ....
Well....there ARE valid reasons NOT to use one....and this thread is riddled with them ....and they were cited by people who are well-known for their hunting conquests. the statement, as put forth, is false.
Reasons cited (for not using one) were:
1 - unnecessary movement
2 - not needed for short range situations
3 - somehting else to carry into the woods
4 - etc...
I don't have the first problem with the amended assessment. It's an opinion....and NOT "wrong", at all.
If you're referring to me, LC...That was FAR from the truth. I even basically thanked Atlas for rephrasing his initial comment. It was that type of comment I was seeking.
Atlas initially said ....
I use one for the simple reason that there is no good reason not to use one (unless you can't afford it).
Reasons cited (for not using one) were:
1 - unnecessary movement
2 - not needed for short range situations
3 - somehting else to carry into the woods
4 - etc...
I don't have the first problem with the amended assessment. It's an opinion....and NOT "wrong", at all.
There is nothing wrong with Atlas's original statement either. I made bold the key word in his original statement. Who areyou (or anyone for that matter)to tellAtlaswhat he feels is a good reason?
For the record, I see no good reason why not to use one either.
Movement? If you wait to use your rangefinder until the deer is inside of 50yds you have more problems to worry about than a rangefinder because you have completely missed the "minimal movement" boat.
Not needed for short ranges? I find it hard to believe there are that many hunters out there who only have 20yd or less hunting spots. I have a couple but most have lanes out to 30-40yds. So to use the minority as a valid reason not to use a rangefinder is.........not valid.
Something else to carry into the woods?? I don't even know where to start with this one. If a few oz rangefinder is going to put you over the top than I suggest getting rid of something less important. I don't know of too much that is more important than securing a correct range of an animal you are about to kill.
So just as you think those are valid reasons I think they're not. But who am I to tell you what is a valid reason and what is not......see where I'm going with this.
#72
ORIGINAL: atlasman
You will probably drop 10-15 fps...........so given your earlier account of guessing a deer at 24 yards (low extreme) and he was actually 33 you are talking about a miss of over 2" with this years bow and assuming the switchback was slower it was probably about a 4" miss. Those are unacceptable margins of error for me to guess at.........especially when shooting at a live animal that if I screw up could suffer for a long time.
Just think of how happy you would be if you were shooting in the yard and missing by 2" at best and by 4"+ at worst............I would be smashing my gear with a hammer and starting over.
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
My target arrows are shooting 301.5fps. I've never chrono'd my hunting arrows.....but you can add 30gr. or so to the target arrows and probably get closer to an accurate guess than I can.
My target arrows are shooting 301.5fps. I've never chrono'd my hunting arrows.....but you can add 30gr. or so to the target arrows and probably get closer to an accurate guess than I can.
Just think of how happy you would be if you were shooting in the yard and missing by 2" at best and by 4"+ at worst............I would be smashing my gear with a hammer and starting over.
Knowing how your bow shoots is just as important as knowingthe yardage.
I setup to get them close

#73
Like Rybo, I have never wounded a deer or missed one thus far in my hunting endavors. I haven't taken as many deer though (around 15) but until a couple years ago we were only allowed one deer tag per year.
I do not understand how this information (Rybos or mine)pertains to why one should or should not carry a rangefinder though? Please explain.
I am pretty good at ranging distance (thanks to years of 3D shooting) butI still always take my rangefinder with me each trip out.
As Atlas and Bigj said I can't see a good reason to not take one with me.
I do not understand how this information (Rybos or mine)pertains to why one should or should not carry a rangefinder though? Please explain.
I am pretty good at ranging distance (thanks to years of 3D shooting) butI still always take my rangefinder with me each trip out.
As Atlas and Bigj said I can't see a good reason to not take one with me.
#74
ORIGINAL: buckeyebuckhntr
Like Rybo, I have never wounded a deer or missed one thus far in my hunting endavors. I haven't taken as many deer though (around 15) but until a couple years ago we were only allowed one deer tag per year.
I do not understand how this information (Rybos or mine)pertains to why one should or should not carry a rangefinder though? Please explain.
I am pretty good at ranging distance (thanks to years of 3D shooting) butI still always take my rangefinder with me each trip out.
As Atlas and Bigj said I can't see a good reason to not take one with me.
Like Rybo, I have never wounded a deer or missed one thus far in my hunting endavors. I haven't taken as many deer though (around 15) but until a couple years ago we were only allowed one deer tag per year.
I do not understand how this information (Rybos or mine)pertains to why one should or should not carry a rangefinder though? Please explain.
I am pretty good at ranging distance (thanks to years of 3D shooting) butI still always take my rangefinder with me each trip out.
As Atlas and Bigj said I can't see a good reason to not take one with me.
Here is a ? If you range a deer that is 43 yds out. Then youshoot the buck. Is it P & Y legal?
Just wondering if you know buckeye.
Some guys just don't want to use one, they have their system and it works for them.
#75
Here is a ? If you range a deer that is 43 yds out. Then youshoot the buck. Is it P & Y legal?
Just wondering if you know buckeye.
Some guys just don't want to use one, they have their system and it works for them.
Just wondering if you know buckeye.
Some guys just don't want to use one, they have their system and it works for them.
I am not saying anyone else should or should not use one, I was just stating why I use one myself.
#76
ORIGINAL: Germ
Here is a ? If you range a deer that is 43 yds out. Then youshoot the buck. Is it P & Y legal?
Here is a ? If you range a deer that is 43 yds out. Then youshoot the buck. Is it P & Y legal?
What if you estimated that same deer at 35 yards and he was at the 43 yards and your arrow went under him, would you use a rangefinder next time out?
#77
I use my rangefinder in a new location to range trees or logs. I sometimes use it to double check if I feel I need too. I find ridges orhills to sometimes be trickyguessing yds down hill or up.
#78
ORIGINAL: brucelanthier
If it weren't would you pass on it? Would anyone? I wouldn't, it is still a good buck whether it is in some book or not. I guess if you are shooting deer to get in some book then the question is important but if you are hunting deer to please yourself then it wouldn't matter.
What if you estimated that same deer at 35 yards and he was at the 43 yards and your arrow went under him, would you use a rangefinder next time out?
ORIGINAL: Germ
Here is a ? If you range a deer that is 43 yds out. Then youshoot the buck. Is it P & Y legal?
Here is a ? If you range a deer that is 43 yds out. Then youshoot the buck. Is it P & Y legal?
What if you estimated that same deer at 35 yards and he was at the 43 yards and your arrow went under him, would you use a rangefinder next time out?
#79
ORIGINAL: Germ
I agree and I would pass but not because of a book. I am just wondering if the buck wouldbe P & Y "legal"
I agree and I would pass but not because of a book. I am just wondering if the buck wouldbe P & Y "legal"
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#80
Why is it so hard to grasp that some people set up for really close shots, and have the discipline to not take a far shot even on the rare occasion they had the ooportunity?


