I may be a young punk, but you got the long armed part wrong, David! I've only got a 27.5" draw.

I shot a 60 lb. guardian and felt the same way as you. It felt great during the shot and after the shot but I wasn't too keen on the draw cycle. I'm also spoiled getting to shoot a Liberty everyday which is among the smoothest bows out there.

I don't usually get to shoot many of the years new bows becuase I'm a lefty. No one stocks LH bows.
But, the friends that had the opportunity to shoot it were not overly impressed (the draw was mentioned in every instance) and opted for other models.
I was confused by all the hoop-la over the Guardian onhere, and no one around here bought one.
Thanks for being honest.

Now im starting to think im the only one who thought it was a sweet shooting bow. I shot the same bow as Jmbuckhunter did at the Illinois deer classic at the bowtech booth with (greg mo) at my side. It fit me like a glove and i was impressed with the draw and the quietness (its calling me) [8D]I did not notice it being hard to pull all the way to the back wall, but im not shooting a Alli. either. Im currently shooting a Mathews Q2, and as far as looks, (In my opinion) there is not a better looking bow out there.

My sentiments exactly.

There is nothing wrong with the Guardian, and its a good bow, with good ground breaking designs. A lot of people love them, and its great that they do. I wish them a happy year until they sell them off for the next big thing.... BUT, I personally was dissapointed. I think since it was hyped up a heck of a lot I let myself hope it would make coffee, do the wash and walk the dog all while punching twelves on auto pilot. The Allegence is still a much more "hunt friendly" model in my opinon.

Maybe we were all just expecting TOO MUCH with the radical new design. Nothing wrong with the bow just nothing new that jumped out at me, except the looks.

I can point my pins at my target.....and draw my 71# '07 Allegiance straight back. It's not an issue. The Guardian......I'll admit that I'm not sure I'd do that so comfortably.

I, admittedly, didn't shoot the bow. After drawing it back....I didn't want to. I was convinced I made the right decision FOR ME, at that point.

If I were an avid 3D or spot shooter.....and I had the wherewithall to have one set up for those purposes......I'd likely consider a Guardian set up at a lower draw weight. There's enough people touting how well they shoot for it not to have some validity.

I haven't shot the Guardian yet but I have been shooting my Commander quite a bit. I think David might have touched on some key points and I will illustrate why.

First, draw length definitely plays a part in the overall impression of the draw cycle of any given bow. I had a gentleman down at the shop try my Commander last night. The draw lengthis set at 30.5 inches and he typically shoots a 29.5 inch draw. When he drew back the bow I could see him struggling a bit with it especially as he got it back farther in the draw cycle. The bow was set at 61 pounds and he typically shoots at that weight for indoor target and 3D. After putting a set of 29 inch mods on the bow he showed decidely less difficulty in completing the draw cycle. His only negative comment was that the bow felt heavy compared to what he was shooting but that may have been my choice of accessories.

Second, the draw cycle definitely has a different feel to it. Using subjective words to describe it is difficult. It isn't harsh in the sense that there are bumps in it or that there is a harsh drop off into a sharp valley. It does go to peak draw weight relatively quickly and stays there for a majority of the draw cycle thus producing the "heavy" impression everyone is mentioning. The transition to and from peak weight though is very smooth in my opinion. Just like everyone else though I would prefer a "smooth mod" option on the new cam design come next year. Having a choice is always nice.

This ispretty muchhow I felt. The first time I shot a Guardian, I wasn't as impressed as I thought I'd be. Even though it is a good bow no doubt... it didn't hold up to my expectations of all the Rave Reviews that I read prior to shooting it. I was expecting a 10/10 bow, when IMO it's a 8/10 bow.

But give it a year, and Bowtechshould have those Kinks worked out! Bowtechseems like a great company with agreat bow design going.

The same with me. I like my 2006 Tribute with my smooth mods' draw cycle better and it is a very quiet bow. I had considered trading it in for the hyped up Guardian but couldn't justify the trade since my Tribute is shockfree, quiet, and the smoothest draw on any bow I have ever shot.