Nic, Saying "Boo" to a human is one thing but saying "Boo" to a deer is another. We are predators, deer are a pray animal. If my life depended on quick reation times I'd be VERY JUMPY! Dick

hey Straight, I was agreeing with ya LOL! Just pointing out something to check out, its very interesting to say the least. It does does look great on paper, honestly! I wonder then if a human can drop faster then gravity? I think to some degree its possible and also in a deer(s) case, they dont jump and then fall, or freefall, catch themselves, they are 'recoiling' to move outta there. Then again thats just how I see it.... More often then not its going to be a kill, but there are those times, not to mention that human factor, and the unknowns as you have stated thrown in, espically on the vids.

Dick, you should have addressed that to North Jeff, Not me.

I can sure tell the season is over in most places. I personally think the problem is a combination of the type of sound (metallic clank vs a somewhat natural sound),the volume of that sound and flight time of arrow. So,Quieter and faster is better, That's my story and I'm sticking to it........bo....BOO..which made you jump the most and how long did it take....lol good post

Lilhunter,

I too was wondering if there is a movement that they can make faster than the acceleration of gravity. Falling to recoil so they can run seems to be one where gravity would control all of the falling part. However, I've seen deer spin incredibly fast and I believe it's quite possible that the turn happens at a faster rate than the &quot;drop&quot;. Combine the two and you've got a real mess.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

i do think most of this topic is good and to the mark but the speed of sound is 740 something............................this is a fact.......on a standard day at sea level.

Jimmya,

The speed of sound is approximately 740 mph or 1085 fps, varying with temperature and pressure (altitude). Take your pick.

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I touched on this on the Max-Distance topic...but wanted to see what you guys and gals had to think about this.

After years of experience, watching 100's of deer a year, and talking back and forth with my serious hunting and shooting buddies around the country, most of us stand by the principal that a deer will jump the string under 30 yards most often. This can only be based upon personal observation and speculation, but here is the theory it is based upon.

Call it the &quot;Boo&quot; theory or whatever, but if you round the corner and someone yells &quot;boo!&quot; from a foot away-most people jump. If you round that same corner and someone from across a 20' room yells &quot;boo!&quot;, well then you'd probably look at them like they were an idiot or something.

Apply that to deer. The deer is reacting to the sound of the bow exploding. At some point, there is a distance at which the deer will have little or no reaction to the sound of the bow. Of course, that point could obviously be 150 yards, might be 100 yards, but I think about 30-35 yards is a pretty safe range.

Again, this is based on a lot of personal observation and experience, but I think it holds some water. I'm not trying to advocate taking a longer shot, but I'd take a 35 yard shot at a feeding deer much sooner than I'd take a 15 yard shot at an alert deer that's ready to &quot;head for the hills&quot;.

Jeff...U.P. of Michigan.
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let's not forget the mode of the deer at the time of the shot. I recently shot one walking at a normal pace at 30 to 35 yds. and made a clean pass through. she didn't bolt until the arrow was there. if she had come in &quot;wired&quot; or in a frenzy, this shot would not have been a hit. It is probably harder to alert a pre-occupied deer then one that is alert. The rut can be a big factor too.
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I touched on this on the Max-Distance topic...but wanted to see what you guys and gals had to think about this.

After years of experience, watching 100's of deer a year, and talking back and forth with my serious hunting and shooting buddies around the country, most of us stand by the principal that a deer will jump the string under 30 yards most often. This can only be based upon personal observation and speculation, but here is the theory it is based upon.

Call it the &quot;Boo&quot; theory or whatever, but if you round the corner and someone yells &quot;boo!&quot; from a foot away-most people jump. If you round that same corner and someone from across a 20' room yells &quot;boo!&quot;, well then you'd probably look at them like they were an idiot or something.

Apply that to deer. The deer is reacting to the sound of the bow exploding. At some point, there is a distance at which the deer will have little or no reaction to the sound of the bow. Of course, that point could obviously be 150 yards, might be 100 yards, but I think about 30-35 yards is a pretty safe range.

Again, this is based on a lot of personal observation and experience, but I think it holds some water. I'm not trying to advocate taking a longer shot, but I'd take a 35 yard shot at a feeding deer much sooner than I'd take a 15 yard shot at an alert deer that's ready to &quot;head for the hills&quot;.

Jeff...U.P. of Michigan.
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