HCH....I used the no drinking rule at NCAA events and the absence of cigarette sponsorship at NASCAR(you say no advertising .....I won't argue) to prove a point. With ALL th erevenue generated by those sports (insert hunting revenues to correlate).....the special interest groups (read anti's...again, for correlation) STILL had the power to have alcohol sales at NCAA events banned and to have RJReynolds (world's largest tobacco leader) removed from NASCAR sponsorship.

Your acknowledgement, as if an answer, would simply lead to a future answer to someone else's question. You figure out the question and ponder fora while the "why's".

Answer: Because hunting is illegal

Also HCH.....what's your bowhunting business? Maybe you could get some guys here to support it.

Hiawatha's circumstances in Canada are not unsimilar to our own here in New York state.We upstate rural communities have very little say or power in state wide elections.(Example Hillary Clinton)Do you think upstate New York got her elected,heck no it was the New York city vote.That is where the significant population density is,and these are the people who have the most detachment with the realities of the food chain.Emotion will carry an issue,read the section in the NRA magazine that indicates the legislative issues that are being voted upon,we as hunters don't always prevail in these matters.
As many others have said it is not the Anti's that we can do any thing about it is the folks who are undecided.Showing class and consideration is the way to get that done,thinking otherwise is short sighted.You influence people by being considerate not by forcing your beliefs down their throats.How many of us like to be hard sold?It is the same thing with this take or leave it this is the reality of life,so get over it attitude.

I disagree. They can take Teds lamb and Treds comments to the highest mountain right now and it will notget bowhunting and hunting banned. If this would work for them then you and I wouldn't be talking on a hunting forum. We would be on a home and garden site discussing flower beds. Once again, paranoia and propaganda driving this type of reasoning into hunters' heads. The NONHUNTING public doesn't care what Ted or Tred do. They care about the MONEY in their wallets and if outlawing hunting means much higher taxes andmuch higher insurance premiums,then theNON HUNTING public says screw you anti hunter. Hunters $$,insurance companies interests, and animal population control all weigh into these decisions. The insurance companies alone are the biggest business in America. What they say goes.A few radical people that don't believe in hunting and animals slaughtered at slaughter houses for human consumption are looked up on by the nonhunting public as freaks. Nonhunters may not hunt, but they want their store bought meat. Outlawing hunting is outlawing store bought meat. It is the killing of animals and the antis hate it all.

Ted is most definately a nut case for sure,and he'll do what he does, he is extreme. There are extremists on both sides of the issue with balance provided by the moderates. Extremists get noticed, moderates make the final descisions. I would clean up my picture and pose it nicely. It's just in good taste. Did you ever wonder why we don't get a show with ...."and now we're gonna show you how to gut this deer" Even veteran hunters would probably turn that off! We need our extremists to balance out their extremists!

Alcohol and tobacco have nothing to do with hunting or the possibility of having hunting rights taken. Alcohol kills people in the form of drinking and driving. Tobacco...do I need to go there.

I concede that this is futile.

Have a good day, guys.

Here Here is my deer pic this year. I am going to give a made up story on the hunt. Please tell me how this pic with blood showing and this made up story, is going to be usedby antihunters to have my hunting rights taken away. Many of you tell me that this type of language is fuel for the fire and that this language is terrible and the bloodon the deer is of bad taste.Take me through the process of how this story and pic leaves here and eventually gets my bowhunting taken away.Here you go:

I woke up this AM and I knew that a kill was going to be made today. I could just feel it. An hour into the hunt, in came this dandy of a buck. He stepped behind a tree and I drew my bow. As he stepped out, I put my pin behind his shoulder and drilled him with my broadhead. He turned and I saw blood pumping out of his side. When I got down out of my tree, a foot wide bloodtrail was very evident. Upon gutting the buck, I saw that my broadhead had put a nice hole through his heart. It was a great day.I thanked God that he had allowed me to kill this buck. When I got home, my wife and I rejoiced by going to our domestic lamb pen and shooting a lamb in the head with a handgun so that we could have a lamb meal to celebrate our happiness.

Oh my goodness, Don!

You can't post that! People may find it offensive and complain!

What a buck! Great kill.

As I hunted this eveing I was hoping to see the big buck I had seen two weeks earlier. At about 5:00 PM I heard a twig snap behind me. I turned around and there he was standing about 10 yds away. As he moved towards my shooting lane I got ready. I pulled back set the pin on my target and let the arrow fly. I hit my mark and deer bounded off. At about 40 yds I saw the deer expire.

I was pumped up about the hunting this deer and being succesful.

When I got home we ate the backstraps of the deer I had just taken. We all said a prayer again and thank god for our meal.

I just believe you can tell story without the "shock" value. HCH your story is just fine with me. There are a ton people who really do not care that we hunt, all I am saying is we do not rub them the wrong way. Call mePC, wussie, sensitive I really do not care.

HCH why is your buck so small[8D] I thoght they were all 190's in Iowa