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Germ 01-04-2007 08:21 PM

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

I took the "growl" from the Drury DVD and toned it way down so it didn't sound like a monster. Call it whatever you want........but it wasn't a run of the mill grunt. I think you are getting too hung up on the name.
So kind of like a long draw out tending grunt, with a little extra kick to it in certain parts?

Oneshot7 01-04-2007 08:23 PM

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 
IMHO stay with the good ol grunt call and snort wheeze or in fact i like to just go silent a lot of times;)

Sliverflicker 01-04-2007 08:23 PM

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 
Rob, back in the early 80's I watched a booner for 20 minutes from my stand, after rubing several trees, He went back overand stood about 15 to 20 yards inside the edge of the wood line, only raiseing and lowering his head to get a look out into the bean field. When a smaller Buck chased a Doe out of the Corn field into the Bean field, the Booner let out a Loud Aggressive Grunt, (Roar/Growl) and took of at a gate, doing what some call a tending grunt every other step, 5 times!and chased the younger Buck and Doe back into the Corn field. Now Grunt calls came into the picture sometime later, around 84 or 85. Up until that time some of us were doing deer Vocalizations by mouth, I for one was glad because it made my sinus and throat sore, Plus I could not imitate the Roar (not loud or ruff enough) by mouth. After playing with the new grunt calls I could do the loud aggressive grunt by cupping bouth hands over the end of the call, at the beginning of the grunt (lower), and uncupping them at the end of thegrunt (higher with an "erra" on the end). Now Me, and several of my friends and Family have been useing this grunting sequence for at least 20 years. It's not new, just new to some. Hope this helps.

atlasman 01-04-2007 08:24 PM

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

Ranks right up there with carbon clothing and scents. Gimmicks and a waste of money. It just reminded me of another gimmick call that has passed with time; Knight and Hales fighting purr turkey calls sold about 10 years ago.Two big aweful sounding box calls that came with an instructural tape. You basically went back and forth with both of these calls and made a loud ruckuss that scared every animal in a 3 mile area. Yea, I was a sucker and bought them:eek:

I don't get the "gimmick" or "waste of money" label for this one (and believe me I throw those terms around a lot).

The call was $15 and it is a very nice grunt tube that is well made. If used as nothing more then a grunt tube it is still well worth the $15. If you use it to make the drawn out "growl" and don't like it or get a poor response then you still have a perfectly good grunter. That is not a scam IMO.

atlasman 01-04-2007 08:29 PM

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

Oh I would never confuse you with someone who cares.

Thanks, you made my point.
I knew you were gonna say that............which is why I clarified my statement immediately after typing it ;)

So this whole thread is about objecting to the name growl/roar??

Why do you care what they call it?

atlasman 01-04-2007 08:33 PM

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

ORIGINAL: Germ

So kind of like a long draw out tending grunt, with a little extra kick to it in certain parts?
It's not very easy describing a sound................it has more pizzaz then a tending grunt though.

hardcorehunter 01-04-2007 08:34 PM

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

Ranks right up there with carbon clothing and scents. Gimmicks and a waste of money. It just reminded me of another gimmick call that has passed with time; Knight and Hales fighting purr turkey calls sold about 10 years ago.Two big aweful sounding box calls that came with an instructural tape. You basically went back and forth with both of these calls and made a loud ruckuss that scared every animal in a 3 mile area. Yea, I was a sucker and bought them:eek:

I don't get the "gimmick" or "waste of money" label for this one (and believe me I throw those terms around a lot).

The call was $15 and it is a very nice grunt tube that is well made. If used as nothing more then a grunt tube it is still well worth the $15. If you use it to make the drawn out "growl" and don't like it or get a poor response then you still have a perfectly good grunter. That is not a scam IMO.
Agreed. Nice sounding grunt tubes are worth that.

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-04-2007 08:36 PM

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

ORIGINAL: atlasman


ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer

Oh I would never confuse you with someone who cares.

Thanks, you made my point.
I knew you were gonna say that............which is why I clarified my statement immediately after typing it ;)

So this whole thread is about objecting to the name growl/roar??

Why do you care what they call it?
Just doing what your so good at and setting the record straight.


Original: atlasman

Yea...........if I laid into that call like the Drury boys do.........every single deer in the county would break it's legs running away.
Exactly, your grunted, not roared/growled otherwise it would have spooked the immature buck which makes my point that it will scare more deer than it calls in and any call can imitate the toned down roar/growl. It's pure marketing as far as the box is concerned but good marketing at that, not unlike Scentloc.

Germ 01-04-2007 08:37 PM

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 
Ok I just down loaded video and watch it. Sounds like a pissed off grunt to me, kind of like when Dad said "hey jr", if I did not respond I got the one I would listen too.

Just like "the can" fate once everyone starts blowing it in the woods it will be useless IMO.

Atlas I think what Rob is asking is why all of a sudden is everyone hearing the "growl" now. Is because we have a name for it now, or is it all mental.

Dr Andy 01-04-2007 08:40 PM

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 
They're in the business of selling us this stuff, if they called it the new improved 2006 model grunt tube nobody would buy it. Marketing comes up with a catchy name and it sells. Does it work? $15, buy one and find out ,if it doesn't work put it in the box with all the other stuff you've bought that didn't work,calls,fishing lures (wow! fishing lures now there's a racket!)


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