RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

That's correct.


I didn't see the qualifier "mature" in your question. I thought you asked if anyone had roared/growled any bucks into bow range.


1 is dead because I shot him.............the other I didn't have a tag for but was broadside at 15 yards.


As much as anyone else I guess..........I used the call just like the DVD instructs you too but I toned it WAY down so it didn't sound like a 200" maniac that no deer within ear shot of me would want any part of.


Perhaps I misunderstood your question.............are you asking if my deer growled back?? If that is what you meant then no, they didn't. They just stopped and changed direction and came to me in response to a low intensity growl. I have been in the woods hunting deer for 20 years and plenty before that when I was too young to hunt and I have never heard a deer "growl" either. I am just trying to relay my first hand experience with using this call (modified to fit the woods I hunt) this year.

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

Great question Rob, I have been wondering that myself. With all of the video footage shot in the last 5-10 years, why has noone heard the growl? I guess it is a new breed of deer that startedstarted a new language.

I did see a bioligist on one of the huntin shows talking about it. I think it was a DruryBro. show. So that may explain his answer.He said it was due to the intense management creating more competition between the bucks. Thus they are getting more aggresive with their vocalizations. But to my Knowledge bucks have been aggresive to one another during the rut for a good while.

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

I feel your misinformed on what a "roar/growl" is.

I doubt you roared/growled in that immature buck, grunted yes, I would wonder why you even attempt to roar/growl an immature buck.

That's why I started this thread, like you, most people misunderstand exactly what a growl/roar is.....although I have heard only one from a downed buck that wasn't finished, rybo will can elaborate how misinformed you are.

You didn't misunderstand my question, I should have known it didn't growl/roar back...that is rare.

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I agree with this statement mostly. But, the current scent I'm using has been amazing me. I use just scent wicks hung in trees mostly. I can't tell you how many different times I've had bucks come in downwind of me, only to catch wind of it and come in and smell and lick the wick. Its the only scent I've had this type of reaction to so often. I had a small spike once catch wind of a bottle of tinks I stupidly placed on the ground because I was in a hurry. He came in, stuck his nose in it and knocked it over. $10.00, in the ground.:(

The mock scrape, to my surprise has actually worked the last couple seasons. I never did it and was skeptical. I got a dripper on sale before so I decided to give it whirl. Made a scrape, hung it and left it go. To my surprise, the area really got tore up during the rut. Of course it was all done at night as I never seen a buck in it during daylight hours. But, it did get a reaction.

Grunt calls, they're hit and miss for me at least. I missed a really nice buck a few years ago that walked by me out of range. I grunted to him and he came in on a string. Kinda caught me off guard becouse in most cases, my attempts are ignored.

One of the coolest things I ever seen while bowhunting was while rattling. A very large, chalk white 8 pointer came crashing through the woods while I rattled. He scared the crap outta me when he came exploding into view in front of me. Hair was stood up on the back of his neck, walked stiff legged up to a bush and thrashed the heck out of it. Of course, I was shaking like a leaf in the tree.

I think a lot of the success of these types of things really depends on the area, deer density and buck/doe ratio. Our ground has quite a few mature animals. So, I think its the main reason why I've had deer respond more to calls and scents.

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Does anyone here Believe they have tried/done everything a deer does to communicate with another deer? Can we honestly speculate that we know everything a deer knows and does to communicate with another deer? I believe that if we all knew every aspect of a deer's communication/vocab, there would be a heckuva lot more trophy "takers" and a lot less trophy "hunters". This is just MHO and I am in no way,shape or form affiliated with Drury Bro.'s or Will Primos.LOL Although I do know a few folks around here that look sorta like Will.LOL

LT

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

;)

I would like to see video of 1.5 year getting "roared" at to see what happens.

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Ranks right up there with carbon clothing and scents. Gimmicks and a waste of money. It just reminded me of another gimmick call that has passed with time; Knight and Hales fighting purr turkey calls sold about 10 years ago.Two big aweful sounding box calls that came with an instructural tape. You basically went back and forth with both of these calls and made a loud ruckuss that scared every animal in a 3 mile area. Yea, I was a sucker and bought them:eek:

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

I took the "growl" from the Drury DVD and toned it way down so it didn't sound like a monster. Call it whatever you want........but it wasn't a run of the mill grunt. I think you are getting too hung up on the name.


You asked......I answered.

Again, I think you are too hung up on the name "growl" and "roar". Watch the Drury DVD........that is the exact sound I used only toned down so it didn't sound like it was coming from a grizzly bear with antlers.


Because I wanted him to come close enough for me to shoot...........which he did..........I can't think of a better reason then that.

I think you have me confused with someone who cares (about the name)..........what I mean by that is you can call it whatever you want and it won't matter to me. I don't care if is a real growl or roar........the name on the box is absolutely meaningless to me. I couldn't care less what label anyone wants to put on a noise................as long as the deer stops and comes my way to check it out. So call it a growl, roar, snarl, huff, puff, hoot, hollar, yell, scream...........whatever. The name of the sound is useless to me.

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

Oh I would never confuse you with someone who cares.

Thanks, you made my point.

RE: Deer Vocalizations, The Roar/Growl Phenomenon
 

Yea...........if I laid into that call like the Drury boys do.........every single deer in the county would break it's legs running away.