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I think that every deer taken with a Bow, or gun for that matter is a trophy. I think too many hunters are worried about taking a “Book Trophy” 140+ deer. You could hunt in an area your whole life, and because you done see the monster doesn’t mean he is not out there. This is my first year bow hunting and I have seen a ton of deer. But I know that I only see about 25% of the deer that pass my stand. The same family has owned the land I hunt on for 30 years, 350 acres of prime deer land in the southern zone of NY. The biggest deer taken off the land is large 8pt, dressed out at 190lbs. While Bow hunting I saw a monster and I counted at least 12pt on him. The whole hill is now talking about his deer. I guess my point is he did not just appear out of thin air, he has been in the area for a few years at least and no one has seen him, before me.

I guess I am trying to say is just because you don’t see him doesn’t mean he is not out there. All deer taken should be considered to be trophies, bucks, does…. All Deer

Very good points both of you. Here in southwestern Iowa we are blessed with a LOT of deer. And the hunters around here complain that they are all button bucks and does. But somebody had to breed those does to make the button bucks. I believe some hunters, not all, just go do their 40 hour a week thing and never think about hunting until the night before opening day. Then they get out there and expect to just hang a stand over a deer run and Godzilla will walk right up to them. I believe we have become so "instant gratification" oriented because of modern technology that we get bored if we don't bag "grandpa" 10 minutes after we get into the woods. I agree with you guys. There are plenty of nice bucks out there. You just have to do your homework. Being a recovering alcoholic, let me quote the "Big Book". "Half measures availed us nothing"

I agree with budbowhunter. I took a trophy last week, went out for doe last night and kicked up another P&Y 10 point 50 yards from my truck. There are plenty of great deer out there. You can't just pick a clear spot and climb a tree, there is a strategy that only comes from scouting with these bigger bcks

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I'll agree and disagree both. yes I think there are more nicer bucks out there than some people think, but not many more. i also think that in many cases you may have a big buck that lives in your area BUT that land you may have access to, isn't really where he spends much time at all. Where i hunt the land is chopped up pretty good amongst several landowners, and if you only have acess to one of the spots you are going to be hard pressed to score on the big one, if 90 % of his time is spent elsewhere.