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grim reaper 11-10-2002 07:50 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
Well I debated about getting into this but here goes. If someone shoots a button buck buy mistake so be it. However at bow range any person whom is bow hunting should be able to see that they were button bucks. I noticed lady didn't answer the question about weather or not her dad retrieved the first deer before shooting the second. I certainly would not want some one like this on my property but he wasn't so I am glad for him in away. I have to agree that it is not the most ethical thing to shoot fawns and yes that is exactly what a button buck is to whom ever on the first page said "just becouse it was a button buck doesn't make it 4-5 months old" well in short malarky yes a button buck is a deer that was just born this spring thus making it a fawn. Also to Dale in pa. you are so wrong in PA. they don't want the button bucks killed if you would have read your rule book that comes with your license you would have seen the page and a half they devoted to telling their hunter's why they shouldn't kill button buck's and giving tip's on how to spot a button buck in the field BECOUSE PA. DOESN'T WANT THEM SHOT! Lady if your dad was happy witht he deer fine but maybe you could have a talk with him and encourage him to look for bigger deer. Now the missing six shot's then getting differnt broad heads well I don't think I have to even say any thing you know PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE and if you don't know how to set your bow up take it the darn shop they only charge a couple of buck's to put on a rest set nocking points and stuff like that. Royaok there is no need for that name calling if he's an @ss hole you are just as much for the behavior you are displaying. Buck blaster above you said horn's aren't ever thing well how come your nick name is buck blaster? probably becouse you prefer to shoot buck's than doe's huhhh so maybe you shouldn't lash out at c for caring about button buck's growing into mature buck's.

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mraynor1 11-10-2002 08:43 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
I just want to say that I really enjoy this site and this forum. I am new to bowhunting and will not attempt to even try to kill a deer with my bow until I know I am good enough to do it cleanly. But some of the things that have been stated to this poster are very ridiculous. There is no need to bash the person or her family for the taking of 2 button bucks. IF IT WAS LEGAL WHERE IS THE PROBLEM. If you notice you don't know how big they were. And realisticly what is the difference if the man DID NOT KNOW that they were not does. I have news for the poster that said a button only weighed 45 - 50 pounds, I came home the other day to my wife and son telling me there was a dead doe in the yard, only to find that it was a button that had gotten hit by a car.( GUESS WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE CAR DRIVER ARRESTED BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW IT WASN'T A DOE ) But the thing weighed about 110 lbs. and I live in SC. Get off of it. The man made clean kills and they were found. There is no need for name calling or bashing.
This is an excellent site there is no need for all of this. please keep going with all the excellent info. I know opinions are like ( well you know the rest), this is just mine.

MIKE

bob d 11-10-2002 08:50 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
no wonder he shot a button buck your post said shot one at thirty yards and the other at about a hundred no wonder he could not see the buttons

VBM 11-10-2002 09:07 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
bob d, please read the original post slowly and carefully. If you do I am sure you will find that the deer were recovered at 30yds. and 100yds. not shot at these distances.

kshunter 11-10-2002 09:23 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
Just my 2 cents. Congrats to your dad with the deer. I'm gald to hear you'll have a freezer of meat.

On the debate side of the subject, from a hunter who not only hunts for trophy deer, but also for meat to put in the freezer also. Hopefully you're father will be more prepared next year so he won't make 6 misses in a row. That's carelessness for 6 times, after the 1st, at most 2 shot he should've done something to his bow so he wouldn't take the chance of wounding a deer. I'm glad he got his problem fixed, and hopefully next year he will be more prepared. And any questions about his bow, he can come on here and we can try helping him with his problem.

All that aside, I encourage people to practice deer management and pass the buttons and small bucks up. But I won't put a person down because they have to fill the freezer and a couple buttons was the answer. I have a grandpa who has the "brown it's down" method. He hunts just for meat, and could care less about the rack. He's been doing it for as long as he's been deer-hunting and there are still B&C bucks running around his land. I don't belittle him because of it, it's just how he hunts. I still try to encourage him though. Last year I saw 2 bucks running out across the open, one was a 120 class 8ptr, and the other a big non-typ. And the shot the non-typ, which was an older deer, giving the other buck another year to grow. Let's all just be helpful hunters on here and try to help each other out. Isn't that what this place is for...
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69inchspread 11-10-2002 10:16 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
honest mistake!it happens to the best of us. congrats on harvest!!them youngs got good meat!!

the buck stops here!

thundermug 11-11-2002 03:50 AM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
He took how many shots the first day? and missed every one? or did he wound any?<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

I have no problem with button bucks, but with a lack of sighting in.

He should have hung it up!

FOOLPROOF?
Never underestimate the power of a fool!

What if the &quot;Hokey Pokey&quot; really is what it's all about?

Tazman 11-11-2002 04:45 AM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
Ladybowhunter congrats to your dad, I am sure he was ecstatic.

We have all made mistakes, some of us are man enough(I know your a lady, but I do not know how else to put that)to admit our mistakes and some aren't. I am not ashamed of any mistake I have made hunting, because when the mistake was made it was not an unsafe mistake nor was there any way it could have turned out illegal.

I have killed 2 buttons over the years that unless you have bionic vision you could not have told until you were right on them, the buttons on one of them hardly broke the hair and the other ones buttons stood only 1/2 inch above the hairline. When I shot them it was buck or doe and I thought they were doe. Guess what? I was still pleased as punch over them both!

Last year during gun, when it was buck or doe, I had a deer about 40-45 yards out moving through some mountain laurel, I could see almost all of the deer except the top of it's head, it sure looked like a doe so I shot her, well it turned out to be a dink 4 point, the beams at the base were about as thick as my pinky!!! Guess what? I was still happy I had put some excellent meat in the freezer, but I made a mistake thinking it was a doe.

I will say it again, congrats to your dad, encourage him to tune his bow to his broadheads or do as he did and stick with mechs, I am sure he will do one of these before next season.

Oh for another thing, if I see a deer go down less than 30 yards away I would gladly stick another one.

The Tazman aka Martin Price
Founder and President of
Virginia Disabled Outdoorsmen Club

Grasshopper13 11-11-2002 05:03 AM

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I guess I'd have to say, as long as he was happy, he did what he should have done. I really have no sympathy for someone who shoots a deer(of any kind) and then complains about it. Button bucks can be pretty hard to protect. The problem is sometimes you just CAN'T tell.
I personally believe that anyone who is inclined to shoot antlerless deer, shouldn't fret too much about the sex of the deer. The reason is, most good deer management practices dictate that a certain amount of does be harvested right along with antlered bucks, to keep the herd balanced. IMO, if you start passing antlerless deer because you can't be sure if it's a young buck or not, you start hampering the process of balancing the herd. I've read some research that seems to show that an old doe who manages not to get bred in one year, may not even breed the next year. It seems maybe nature tries to take care of this problem. You see, speaking in the terms of herd health, a doe who doesn't reproduce, is just wasting mother nature's food supply for the viable reproducing deer in the herd. There's only so much food out there, and well you get the picture.

I hope you that have blasted this guy for shooting immature deer, understand that this gentleman is a valuable tool for stabilizing deer numbers, just as you are. Someone wrote that,...it's easy to kill fawns, there's no sport in that.....
How do you know? Just because you happen to be a more skilled hunter doesn't mean everyone else is. C'mon! There's a reason why every person who straps a treestand and a bow on his back doesn't kill a pope and young buck every year. Maybe harvesting a young deer, is a challenge for this guy. There's no shame in that. Maybe he'll get better at it and maybe he won't, but blasting him and putting him down certainly won't help.


Just my 2 cents

GH

I love animals.......they're delicious!

Edited by - Grasshopper13 on 11/11/2002 06:06:33

Charlie P 11-11-2002 07:03 AM

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>As a matter of fact, he kept calling them does the whole time we were field dressing them. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

Didn't he notice anything that would have made it obvious they were bucks?<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

One thing really bothers me and it's not that he shot two button bucks.The man never shot with his broadheads before going out in the field, that's totally wrong and there is no excuse for it.

Did he bother to take a couple shots with the mechs. before he went out the next day? Or did he just screw them in and climb into his tree stand?


grim reaper 11-11-2002 09:33 AM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
MRAYNOR1 You say you found about a 110 lb. button buck first of all was it 110lb or not it seems that you didn't wiegh it so how do know it was ABOUT 110lb? If that button buck wieghed that much it was with the gut's in and dressed out he would have only wieghed about 75-80 lbs. If he shot a button buck so be it but I certainly wouldn't come here bragging about it. I also still wonder if he recovered the first deer before shooting the second. I am pretty sure that all states that allow more than one deer killed per day require that you recover the deer before shooting another. I noticed she said he shot 2 in 2 minutes so I doubt that he did. With this broad head thing how can any one not want a bow hunting test before going to the field? In this case he would have had to test and pass before the woods and he wouldn't have missed or wounded any deer. I also wonder if any of those 6 misses actualy was a wounded deer. I noticed lady didn't answer that question either.

JRW 11-11-2002 10:52 AM

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<font size=5>Congrats to your father on his sucessful HUNT!!!</font id=size5>

Those deer are going to make for some exceptional eating.

For everyone asking if he recovered the first deer before shooting the second...please read the title of the thread. That should answer your question (hint...<font color=red>2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks</font id=red>).

The only argument that I've seen thus far against shooting button bucks is that they will never have a chance to become antlered bucks...and possibly a trophy buck. Folks, this is NOT an ethics issue, it's a trophy hunting issue. If you're a trophy hunter then fine, let them walk and wait for a deer that will make you happy. It's your right, and your decision to make. Please remember though, some of us never were, are not now, and have no desire to be, trophy hunters.

JRW

royak 11-11-2002 11:14 AM

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JRW alright you are the man. I agree totatly.

T_in_PA2 11-11-2002 11:47 AM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
So they were BB. No biggie. Congrats.

Now, what's this about going archery hunting with a setup that he obviously had not practiced with before? Six shots and all misses?? I hope they were all clean misses. It looks like he needs to do some preseason preparation. It's not like taking a rifle out. Six shots with a bow that isn't tuned. <img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> He risked wounding deer with inadequate equipment. Something far worse than taking any button buck, or two for that matter.

Todd

Straightarrow 11-11-2002 11:48 AM

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I have no problem with legal kills. I wish people were more selective, but for the ones who aren't and do it by the law, I'm glad it excites them.

Personally, I don't shoot buttons and always make sure it's a large doe or an older buck. I also don't shoot 1.5 year old bucks and many others do. I doesn't bother me too much how selective bowhunters are or aren't, because once gun season gets here, all the deer are going to be mowed down like tall spring grass. I'll drive by camps with hanging poles, filled with buttons and doe fawns. Almost no one passes on anything around here. I've come to the conclusion that my only reasonable chance of ever seeing a mature buck in my lifetime will be to join a large lease and pay the big money to hunt with others who want to selectively choose which animals to kill.


Dacotah 11-11-2002 11:53 AM

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Congrats to your FIL!!

I bet he'll have reservations the next time he pulls on a doe. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>I don't see anything wrong with it. He wasn't out button buck hunting. BTW, is your father-in-law a new bowhunter? If so, good for him, and that explains a lot.

6ptsika 11-11-2002 12:32 PM

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Congrats! Most deer biologists will tell you to meet your management objectives, take any, that's ANY antlerless deer that stands still long enough to present a shot. This from people who know a lot more about managing for a healthy herd then our resident armchair experts.
Now, the only part that scares me is hutning with a setup you haven't practiced with, make sure you press the point home he should have never been in the woods without having shot his broadheads, and a bow tuned so poorly it wouldn't shoot them well. Mechanical heads aren't a bandaid, and it's unethical to use them as such. If the bow was so poorly tuned it wouldn't shoot fixed blades well enough to hit a deer, it's unethical to use mechanicals, as they aren't flying well, and penetration WILL be an issue on a mature deer.
We all make mistakes, but those types of things with our equipment, well, we owe that much to the animals.



&quot;In heaven, even the fish have antlers&quot;

HuntingBry 11-11-2002 02:34 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
6ptsitka, I agree with most everything you said in your post. I especially agree about mechs not being a quick fix for proper bow tuning and practice. However, I do have some wildlife biology training/education and have never heard that taking any antlerless deer is good for the population. The whole purpose behind taking antlerless deer is to reduce the population of the herd as a whole. By taking a doe, you in effect remove 2-3 deer from the herd. The doe herself and the 1-2 fawns she would drop in the spring. That goes a lot farther toward herd population control than shooting a button buck. Taking a button buck reduces the ratio of bucks-to-doe in that herd. I learned that the greatest indicator of herd health is buck-to-doe ratio. The closer they are the more competition there is for breeding rights, thus ensuring the strongest, healthiest bucks are passing on their genes and in turn improving the herd.

As far as the discussion about taking a button buck, I have done it in the past by mistake and it could happen again. I shot a button buck whose buttons were so small I didn't know it was a buck until I began field dressing it. I like to shoot one young deer a year because they taste the best. Nothing beats a young tender back strap.

Ladybowhunter, I'm glad your father-in-law was happy and congratulate him on a successful hunt, but I hope he prepares a little better next year.

Edited by - huntingbry on 11/11/2002 15:35:51

6ptsika 11-11-2002 03:11 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
I read that statement in last month's North American Whitetail, I believe, I'll check which mag when I get home. Kinda surprised me too.
The author, a name anyone would recognize, did say he would reccomend against it, if possible, but he tells people to not worry about it because most can't tell the difference in a hunting situation, and in most herds the does are so overpopulated it works out to be counterproductive.
For the record, I agree with you, I wouldn't shoot a bb, and I advise constantly against it in my club. Not when a proud new hunter brings one in though, not the time or place, IMO. Take any legal deer for your first, I say, but then give some thought to what your herd needs.
And I use mechanical heads sometimes too. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>


&quot;In heaven, even the fish have antlers&quot;

Straightarrow 11-11-2002 03:54 PM

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I have to agree with Huntingbry. I was in a wildlife biology program until my Senior year in college when I transferred to another major. Whitetail deer studies were the brunt of the program. From what I can remember, the only reason button bucks, (and doe fawns for that matter) are allowed to be shot is because &quot;mistakes&quot; would be all too common. I don't remember ever reading anything that suggested that shooting fawns was good for the population.


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TxCowboy 11-11-2002 04:23 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
Now I clearly remember why I quit posting on the Bowhunting forum. The &quot;Dudley-do-rights&quot; of this board are pathetic. A mistake is a mistake, these guys would never admit it here, that they make them too. Unethical is one thing, mistakes are another.

LadyBowhunter, please give your dad my congrats. I'm sure he was excited too. Killing a deer with a bow is truly a rush.

--------------------------------------------
Hunting the Piney Woods of Deep East Texas.

grim reaper 11-11-2002 05:19 PM

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First to make it clear I have no problem with him shooting the button buck's it was leagal it's not some thing I would do POURPOSLY or want someone else onmy property doing but.... Now to the guy's who are saying you should shoot every antlerless well guess what yea leagaly it may be CONSIDERED a doe but technicaly it is buck thats why it has a set of balls and buttons on it's head. So for every button buck you kill that's one less rack buck next year. Then to the guy who claimes most button buck die over winter COMPLETE HOG WASH I would like to see where these deer are dropping dead all over the place at. If just to say this is the case and doe's have more button bucks than doe's maybe that would be becouse they need to have more buck's so they live not so joe blow can blast a whole bunch of them. Personaly I belive that the reason there are more buck fawns born is becouse mother nature is trying to balance out he buck to doe ratio. SJHUNTER I have some advise for you if button buck's will ultimatly die then how come I killed a nine point 3 weeks ago what do you think storks come along and drop of buck's? Here is your advise just becouse someone writes an artical doesn't mean he is an expert ans just becouse you read it or saw it on tv. doesn't make it true!!!!!!!!!!! Get real man you honestly can't believe that all button buck's will ultimatly die your a real hoot bro that's the best one I have heard in a while. Then to all that say taking a baby deer is the best bow kill becouse he hit a fawn and any one could hit a 200 lb deer you need to get a life your just making up excuses to make your self feel better. I have coughed and fawns are very un aleart and easy going they can catch you moving and not even think about it. try that with a big doe. If you accidently kill a fawn no big deal but if your going out and killing for what ever your stupid reason please don't come here with your dumb excuses about how challenging it is to shoot fawns the more and more some of you post here the more and more I feel like puking. To txcowboy us dudly do rights are trying to keep slobs and unethical jerks from ruining hunting and giving these anti's crap to feed on. I also suspect that the second deer was shot illeagal being that you are supposed to recover the first before shooting the second and that means tagging the deer and in most states getting it out of the woods or to your truck or camp. Please no more baloney excuses for shooting bambi's if it's an accident fine if you didn't know fine but stop trying to make your self feel better by saying it's more challenging.

BOWFANATIC 11-11-2002 05:28 PM

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<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
This statement speaks loudly of the mentality that is present.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>scum around here<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>IF THE SHOE FITS..

This statement speaks loudly and requires no further comment. It is self-explanatory.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>This is what I say &quot;if it's brown it's down&quot;.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>


In my time, I too have made mistakes and bad choices. But I did/do not adverstise and celebrate them.

Did not some of you bust out some shooters for shooting a doe that had fawns or early yearlings in tow because your belief was that the young would not survive?

As I have often said, there are the real bowhunters, and then there are the others. Nevertheless, it is a person's right to choose where they stand. I will stay with the real side.



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Quite frankly , I consider myself a &quot;real bowhunter&quot; and wouldn't want you on my side!<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Rack-attack 11-11-2002 07:00 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Congrats to your father-in-law Ladybowhunter, although I have to agree with others and suggest he practice a little more and be sure to tune up before going afield. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

Thats all that need be said.

grim reaper 11-11-2002 07:03 PM

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SJ. you are right it does not say all will die but it does imply that they will most likely die so why not go shoot them. As far as the joke about killing fawns but being more challenging I in no way find killing a fawn fun,hard,challenging or funny. I also think it's important to note that in a state where the buck to doe ratio is close a buck fawn may not hurt but in a state with bad ratio's killing button buck's could have detrimental effect's. I still stick to the fact that just becouse it's in a book or on tv. or even becouse a &quot;biologist&quot; say's doesn't make it right.

JRW 11-11-2002 07:10 PM

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<font color=red>&quot;I also suspect that the second deer was shot illeagal being that you are supposed to recover the first before shooting the second and that means tagging the deer and in most states getting it out of the woods or to your truck or camp.&quot;</font id=red>

No such law in Illinois or Wisconsin, for what it's worth.

Oh yeah...this one was mighty tastey. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>


Edited by - jrw on 11/11/2002 20:11:02

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grim reaper 11-11-2002 07:25 PM

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SJ. point taken. I haven't assumed any thing wrong sorry but I didn't becouse I said MOST STATES. So that means there are some that don't. However there are alot who do and I was just wondering wether lady's state did or not. Odds are they do but maybe they don't who knows?

huntforlife 11-11-2002 07:35 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
i don't think that the mistake was killing the button bucks if that is what you set out to do i think the mistake is that he missed with six previous shots because he did not tune or practice with his bow or broadheads then he went out and brought mechanicals and instead of practicing to see where they fly he just went out in the field and took luck shots one was so bad that the deer ran 100 yards who knows how many deer he killed and did not find before he got these two

Mike from Texas 11-11-2002 07:53 PM

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I personally have a problem with shooting button bucks. IMO, at ranges that we (should) shoot at deer with a bow, there is no reason for anyone to &quot;accidentally&quot; shoot a button buck. It should be no different than hunting with a rifle in the respect that you should always identify your target. I have been bowhunting for 17 years, and have never accidentally shot a button buck or immature doe. If you know how to identify your game then there is no reason you should shoot an immature deer. In that 17 years, I have killed less deer probably than most have, but it is because I am selective with the animals I shoot. In fact, until this year, I had not killed a deer while bowhunting since 1999. It's not because I haven't had the opportunity, it's just because I choose to be selective with the animals that I shoot.

JRW 11-11-2002 08:12 PM

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<font color=red>&quot;...one was so bad that the deer ran 100 yards.&quot;</font id=red>

Because a deer piles up dead after running 100 yards, that automatically makes it a bad shot? Since when?

I've had deer take razor sharp three blade heads through both lungs and go further than that. Truth be told, I had a large doe opening weekend of this year go 350 yards (confirmed with a GPS) after just such a shot (see below pic).


I'm not trying to pick on you, and I remember you saying that you've only been hunting for four years. But, a very well shot deer is sometimes capable of going a lot further than 100 yards before piling up.

And yes, I completely agree about the tuning issue, but this thread sort of evolved into a button buck thing, so that's what I commented on.

JRW

Edited by - jrw on 11/11/2002 21:19:55

Edited by - jrw on 11/11/2002 21:26:56

Rack-attack 11-11-2002 08:19 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
The shot I took on my buck this weekend was so bad he went over 400 yds and took over 10 hours to expire. Wonder where that puts me in the scheme of things.

Bionicrooster 11-11-2002 08:49 PM

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Grim Reaper - &quot;I in no way find killing a fawn fun,hard,challenging&quot;

You may not, but for a beginning bowhunter, it is. It was a challenge for me to get close enough to ANY deer when I started bowhunting. Lets try using positive encouragement like JRW to get our point across, maybe now with two bowkills under his belt, he WILL be more selective, but he has a better chance if he is encouraged, not because people rag on him.

BT 11-11-2002 08:51 PM

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congrats on the deer.

now i like most people here would ? the pratie with the BH that mied 6 time. but pratic\tunning will take care of that.

now with the BB what is the big deal?
i for one have killed bb and young spikes and does + big bucks for Fl.
i am not a tropie hunter and actuly think tropies are for football not hunting. i am a meat hunter and i do a lot of hunting just for population controal.
i will kill any leagle deer i dicide to and can ethicaly. wheathe it be a doe BB or buck. i dont care a deer is a deer. and any leagle deer is fare game.
L. O. D. Charter member and L.O.S.

huntforlife 11-11-2002 09:17 PM

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Ok I admit i was wrong about the distance a deer travels before it expires i have only taken a few deer with the bow but most were taken with a gun and none have run that far i didn't realize that they could travel 200 to 400 yards after a lung shot i know this turned into a button buck issue but it should be a ethics issue because you should not go into the field before you are sure where your arrow or bullet will travel i spend at least three times more hours practicing than i do hunting

BOWFANATIC 11-11-2002 09:34 PM

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NO! Actually it should be a congrats on your first bow kill thread!

<---Doug---<<<

Robb92 11-11-2002 10:24 PM

RE: 2 Minutes - 2 Button Bucks
 
You know what if your dad had the right tags then more power to him, and congrats to him, more meat in the freezer! I shot a button buck one year, we had doe tags and didn't know it was a buck until we went to gut it, the horns were little nub not more than an eigth of an inch, which was legal! Washington state game rules say the horn lenght for a point must be greater than an inch. SOME OF YOU ON THIS BOARD NEED TO GET RID OF YOU ATTITUDES THINKING YOU ARE BETTER THAN EVERY ONE ELSE!!!! YOUR WHY SOME PEOPLE HAVE LEFT THIS BOARD!!!!! Sorry mods just ticks me off when people post insults!


Edited by - robb92 on 11/11/2002 23:35:11


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