I was hunting Saturday on opening day of BP season on my lease. I was assigned exclusive acreage south of a quarter mile long cross fence. My area south of the cross fence is about 250 yards of mesquite brush I have corn feeders and stands on each end then extends south to a large wheat field I also have use of. I set up a pop up ground blind on the edge of the wheat field taking advantage of the wind overlooking the mesquite on an evening shoot when the deer work out of the brush. The lease is run by an outfitter and this man's sole partner in the enterprise dropped me off and continued driving on to the eastern boundary and then about another 1/2 mile on north with a guest of his to their area. After an hour or so they spotted a tremendous 145 class 8 point working toward my area and made a stalk. Before they could shoot it the deer made it over my cross fence and ultimately through the mesquite and onto my wheat field. I was glassing the deer when I saw two orange hats in the brush behind the deer. You guessed it they shot the deer right in front of me and claimed they couldn't see me. I was in a popup blind that's why!! The deer fell 40 yards from where they dropped me off on the ranch road and the deer died on the road itself!! They sneaked past my cross fence over 200 yards! I was in the direct line of fire and could've been shot. They wondered why I didn't shoot and I told them because the two of them were downrange and it was dangerous. A big argument ensued winding up having ME kicked off!!!! After 3 hours of arguing I only got $500 back of my $850 fee which still included all but one day of bp season (remember it was opening day)and the entire rifle and late bow seasons relinquished totally unused. Who was wronged? Honestly, I'm thankful to quit hunting with these dangerous fellas and get back any money I could. The beautiful buck had 6" bases and was 180# field dressed. Sorry to see this place go actually but safety and courtesy first. What do you guys think?

Edited by - soonershooter on 11/08/2002 00:54:35

Edited by - soonershooter on 11/08/2002 00:56:28

can you say claymores!!!

I believe in the long run you will be better off.

I do believe you are right. Now had the deer been shot on thier own territory and they had to track it on yours for recovery that would be differant.

Spread the word about them, they say that one dissatisfied customer will tell 10 friends and those 10 will tell 10 of thier friends, etc etc

"Kill'em and Grill'em"
By The Nug (aka Ted Nugent)

It is a darn shame of the loss of money, but take it as an expensive learning lesson. You were in the right, but I am not sure there is anything more you can do. This is another reason why I do not like hunting clubs. If you argue with a guy and loose, chances are, he is in tight with the top brass running the club. It doesn't matter, you will loose every time.

soonershooter even though you lost money, you came out ahead, these clowns knew basically where you were and knew they were coming on your turf. By shooting in an area they knew you could have been was the last straw. Count it as a lesson learned, this is why I prefer hunting private property and avoid clubs, I would love to find a good club in my area that I would feel comfortable with, but so far every person I have spoken to who is in a club I wouldn't want to hunt in the same woods with.

The Tazman aka Martin Price
Founder and President of
Virginia Disabled Outdoorsmen Club

Some good advice above.
There are some outfitter review sites you can post your story on, I'd also spread the word, try to help some other fella from having the same problems.


"In heaven, even the fish have antlers"

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