need advice on a new rest
07-28-2006 | 10:47 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: A flat lander lost in the mountains of Northern,AZ
RE: need advice on a new rest
ORIGINAL: tschammel
It is personal preference your right. Just a couple of other things to add. You said that your limited to 60lb bow, and you want to switch to 75grain heads to add spead. I would guard against doing that. You will increase your spead but if your shooting in the 50's for poundage your going to loose alot of penetration going to a 75grain head. If you want to keep some speed a drop away would be a good idea, no drag. But, Im done promoting the drop away, said all I can say about it.
Good luck in choosing a rest. I was just givng my opinion from my experiences. Not trying to give you any bs. Good luck hunting!
It is personal preference your right. Just a couple of other things to add. You said that your limited to 60lb bow, and you want to switch to 75grain heads to add spead. I would guard against doing that. You will increase your spead but if your shooting in the 50's for poundage your going to loose alot of penetration going to a 75grain head. If you want to keep some speed a drop away would be a good idea, no drag. But, Im done promoting the drop away, said all I can say about it.
Good luck in choosing a rest. I was just givng my opinion from my experiences. Not trying to give you any bs. Good luck hunting!
07-28-2006 | 10:51 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: A flat lander lost in the mountains of Northern,AZ
RE: need advice on a new rest
Ive decided to try the WB first if for some reason I dont like it, it never hurts to have more junk lol
. If I do end up not liking it im gonna try the shakey hunter fall away. but I have a feeling i will be pleased with the WB. thanks for all of your input. just never liked diving into something without hearing others experience. thanks
. If I do end up not liking it im gonna try the shakey hunter fall away. but I have a feeling i will be pleased with the WB. thanks for all of your input. just never liked diving into something without hearing others experience. thanks
07-28-2006 | 11:04 PM
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RE: need advice on a new rest
Many pro shops have a few demo rests that they would allow you to bolt onto you bow and then shoot it for a hour or two to see if you like it. I too am a fan off the fall away and highly recomed it to anyone. Iuse both the RipCord and theTrophy Taker, but their aregetting to be many good ones on the market.What you need to do is try out as many different rests as possiable to find the one you like the best.
07-28-2006 | 11:53 PM
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RE: need advice on a new rest
Both rests will work fine as long as you set them up correctly. Some have said that the Whisker Biscuit is less forgiving due to the fletchings comming into contact with the bristles and thus bad form will cause bad shots or something in that order. Well remember this.... ANY bad form will result in bad shots no matter what rest you use.
Lets look at the basics of how these rests work. A drop away will fall down away from the arrow when shooting however until the arrow comes off of the string it will still be effected by bad form,even if there is nothing touching the arrow but the string, because after all the string is attached to the bow and that's inYOUR hand!
The Whisker Biscuit works slightly different in that there are bristles all around the arrow as you release. The opening is larger than the arrow soit's not squeezingit. The arrow will contact the bristles slightly due to the flex of the arrow as it is being thrusted forward by the string, but this does not seem to do anything to hamper it's flight. If you see one in slow motion you will know what I mean, the arrow oscillates the same as is does from a drop away.
Alsoif yousee one being used in slow motion, you will notice that the vanes/feathers are almost half way through the biscuit when it leaves the string.Only about two inches of the fletchings are still in "contact" with therest after it isleaves the string. This two inches is the difference between the two rests because any movement of the bow with the arrow still on the string will amount to poor shots.
Now the most important part.......from the time youtrigger your release to the time the arrow leaves the string only takes fractions of a second, faster than you can blink. So to say that the Whisker Biscuit is less forgivingfor me is very hard to believe because inbothinstances the arrow is still attached and still effected by form, we are talking about two inches of contact after the arrow has left the string and in that little millisecond of timeall three vanes/feathers are evenly passing through.
Given this and the fact that many.....manyarchers shoot the Whisker Biscuit just fine should let you know that it is indeeda very easy rest to shoot accurately.
I have used them since they first came out and have never noticed even the slightest difference in accuracy between it and my old rest (Prong style). What I have noticed are many good features from a quality, sturdy and consistant rest.
Either one you choose will work just fine as long as you do.
Lets look at the basics of how these rests work. A drop away will fall down away from the arrow when shooting however until the arrow comes off of the string it will still be effected by bad form,even if there is nothing touching the arrow but the string, because after all the string is attached to the bow and that's inYOUR hand!
The Whisker Biscuit works slightly different in that there are bristles all around the arrow as you release. The opening is larger than the arrow soit's not squeezingit. The arrow will contact the bristles slightly due to the flex of the arrow as it is being thrusted forward by the string, but this does not seem to do anything to hamper it's flight. If you see one in slow motion you will know what I mean, the arrow oscillates the same as is does from a drop away.
Alsoif yousee one being used in slow motion, you will notice that the vanes/feathers are almost half way through the biscuit when it leaves the string.Only about two inches of the fletchings are still in "contact" with therest after it isleaves the string. This two inches is the difference between the two rests because any movement of the bow with the arrow still on the string will amount to poor shots.
Now the most important part.......from the time youtrigger your release to the time the arrow leaves the string only takes fractions of a second, faster than you can blink. So to say that the Whisker Biscuit is less forgivingfor me is very hard to believe because inbothinstances the arrow is still attached and still effected by form, we are talking about two inches of contact after the arrow has left the string and in that little millisecond of timeall three vanes/feathers are evenly passing through.
Given this and the fact that many.....manyarchers shoot the Whisker Biscuit just fine should let you know that it is indeeda very easy rest to shoot accurately.
I have used them since they first came out and have never noticed even the slightest difference in accuracy between it and my old rest (Prong style). What I have noticed are many good features from a quality, sturdy and consistant rest.
Either one you choose will work just fine as long as you do.
07-29-2006 | 12:43 AM
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RE: need advice on a new rest
you owe it to yourself to check out the 06 mirage by goldenkey. this is by far a great hunting rest. easy to set up and tune. alot quieter than the trophy taker with a better arrow cradle system. i honestly have naever had any problems with this rest over the past 3 yrs. the 06 even comes with launcher bearings for better and smoother performance. ive tried the trophy taker,the ultra rest,the biscuit and a few others over the years and this rest out performs them all in hunting conditions. alot of people miss out on this rest.
07-29-2006 | 12:49 AM
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From: A flat lander lost in the mountains of Northern,AZ
RE: need advice on a new rest
ORIGINAL: BigJ12
Both rests will work fine as long as you set them up correctly. Some have said that the Whisker Biscuit is less forgiving due to the fletchings comming into contact with the bristles and thus bad form will cause bad shots or something in that order. Well remember this.... ANY bad form will result in bad shots no matter what rest you use.
Lets look at the basics of how these rests work. A drop away will fall down away from the arrow when shooting however until the arrow comes off of the string it will still be effected by bad form,even if there is nothing touching the arrow but the string, because after all the string is attached to the bow and that's inYOUR hand!
The Whisker Biscuit works slightly different in that there are bristles all around the arrow as you release. The opening is larger than the arrow soit's not squeezingit. The arrow will contact the bristles slightly due to the flex of the arrow as it is being thrusted forward by the string, but this does not seem to do anything to hamper it's flight. If you see one in slow motion you will know what I mean, the arrow oscillates the same as is does from a drop away.
Alsoif yousee one being used in slow motion, you will notice that the vanes/feathers are almost half way through the biscuit when it leaves the string.Only about two inches of the fletchings are still in "contact" with therest after it isleaves the string. This two inches is the difference between the two rests because any movement of the bow with the arrow still on the string will amount to poor shots.
Now the most important part.......from the time youtrigger your release to the time the arrow leaves the string only takes fractions of a second, faster than you can blink. So to say that the Whisker Biscuit is less forgivingfor me is very hard to believe because inbothinstances the arrow is still attached and still effected by form, we are talking about two inches of contact after the arrow has left the string and in that little millisecond of timeall three vanes/feathers are evenly passing through.
Given this and the fact that many.....manyarchers shoot the Whisker Biscuit just fine should let you know that it is indeeda very easy rest to shoot accurately.
I have used them since they first came out and have never noticed even the slightest difference in accuracy between it and my old rest (Prong style). What I have noticed are many good features from a quality, sturdy and consistant rest.
Either one you choose will work just fine as long as you do.
Both rests will work fine as long as you set them up correctly. Some have said that the Whisker Biscuit is less forgiving due to the fletchings comming into contact with the bristles and thus bad form will cause bad shots or something in that order. Well remember this.... ANY bad form will result in bad shots no matter what rest you use.
Lets look at the basics of how these rests work. A drop away will fall down away from the arrow when shooting however until the arrow comes off of the string it will still be effected by bad form,even if there is nothing touching the arrow but the string, because after all the string is attached to the bow and that's inYOUR hand!
The Whisker Biscuit works slightly different in that there are bristles all around the arrow as you release. The opening is larger than the arrow soit's not squeezingit. The arrow will contact the bristles slightly due to the flex of the arrow as it is being thrusted forward by the string, but this does not seem to do anything to hamper it's flight. If you see one in slow motion you will know what I mean, the arrow oscillates the same as is does from a drop away.
Alsoif yousee one being used in slow motion, you will notice that the vanes/feathers are almost half way through the biscuit when it leaves the string.Only about two inches of the fletchings are still in "contact" with therest after it isleaves the string. This two inches is the difference between the two rests because any movement of the bow with the arrow still on the string will amount to poor shots.
Now the most important part.......from the time youtrigger your release to the time the arrow leaves the string only takes fractions of a second, faster than you can blink. So to say that the Whisker Biscuit is less forgivingfor me is very hard to believe because inbothinstances the arrow is still attached and still effected by form, we are talking about two inches of contact after the arrow has left the string and in that little millisecond of timeall three vanes/feathers are evenly passing through.
Given this and the fact that many.....manyarchers shoot the Whisker Biscuit just fine should let you know that it is indeeda very easy rest to shoot accurately.
I have used them since they first came out and have never noticed even the slightest difference in accuracy between it and my old rest (Prong style). What I have noticed are many good features from a quality, sturdy and consistant rest.
Either one you choose will work just fine as long as you do.
07-29-2006 | 11:03 AM
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RE: need advice on a new rest
i HAVE SHOT A wb FOR TWO YEARS NOW AND LOVE IT. iT HAS BEEN WITH ME IN FOUR STATES AND FIVE DIFFERENT BIG GAME ANIMALS AND HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT GOOD. aGAIN...IT'S ALL IN WHAT you LIKE.
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