2 Bucks in 1 week
10-31-2002 | 10:15 AM
#32
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From: Illinois
RE: 2 Bucks in 1 week
Wow. Good job on jumping down my throat Bowdaddy. Bravo.
I think I was pretty reserved with what I said to begin with and you guys go getting all defensive. Nice.
I still have a problem with the fact that he could not tell if this deer was a buck or a doe when he shot at it because, in his own words, the light was getting too low. I don't know how the laws in NJ work, but here in IL we have until one half hour after sunset to shoot. Up until the end of legal shooting hours you can easily tell the difference between a buck and a doe. So even if you guys think its okay to just toss an arrow into any random deer standing in the woods, it was most likely still past shooting hours.
As far as the shot itself....it was a spine shot, great. One of those lucky bad shots that kills a deer in its tracks. Again, I PERSONALLY don't agree with taking anything less than a sure shot, but to each their own. The deer is in the freezer now and that's all that matters.
I'm not one to really throw stones at people, but that's just what I think. I'm glad he got a shot, I'm glad he retrieved the animal, and I'm glad he's got the meat on the table. That doesn't mean I have to agree with the way it was harvested.
Take it for what its worth.
I think I was pretty reserved with what I said to begin with and you guys go getting all defensive. Nice.
I still have a problem with the fact that he could not tell if this deer was a buck or a doe when he shot at it because, in his own words, the light was getting too low. I don't know how the laws in NJ work, but here in IL we have until one half hour after sunset to shoot. Up until the end of legal shooting hours you can easily tell the difference between a buck and a doe. So even if you guys think its okay to just toss an arrow into any random deer standing in the woods, it was most likely still past shooting hours.
As far as the shot itself....it was a spine shot, great. One of those lucky bad shots that kills a deer in its tracks. Again, I PERSONALLY don't agree with taking anything less than a sure shot, but to each their own. The deer is in the freezer now and that's all that matters.
I'm not one to really throw stones at people, but that's just what I think. I'm glad he got a shot, I'm glad he retrieved the animal, and I'm glad he's got the meat on the table. That doesn't mean I have to agree with the way it was harvested.
Take it for what its worth.
10-31-2002 | 12:12 PM
#33
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From: Hamilton Square NJ USA
RE: 2 Bucks in 1 week
It's not worth much. Just about all of your 15 posts are whining about something, or criticizing someone. Why do you come here anyway?
Huntingbry, you know what assuming does to ya don't ya? Not all zones are earn a buck, best know the regs yourself before telling them to others.
Great bucks, especially for NJ, congrats.
I suspect a lot of the detractors on this post shoot a lot more deer on the internet than they do in real life. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
"In heaven, even the fish have antlers"
Huntingbry, you know what assuming does to ya don't ya? Not all zones are earn a buck, best know the regs yourself before telling them to others.
Great bucks, especially for NJ, congrats.
I suspect a lot of the detractors on this post shoot a lot more deer on the internet than they do in real life. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
"In heaven, even the fish have antlers"
10-31-2002 | 12:20 PM
#34
Fork Horn
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From: jackson new jersey
RE: 2 Bucks in 1 week
All you holier than now bowhunters need to give the guy a break. He shot two good bucks and is happy about it. If your not happy for him thats fine, but lets not start looking for ways to degrade his achievement!
10-31-2002 | 12:31 PM
#35
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From: Illinois
RE: 2 Bucks in 1 week
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It's not worth much. Just about all of your 15 posts are whining about something, or criticizing someone. Why do you come here anyway?
Huntingbry, you know what assuming does to ya don't ya? Not all zones are earn a buck, best know the regs yourself before telling them to others.
Great bucks, especially for NJ, congrats.
I suspect a lot of the detractors on this post shoot a lot more deer on the internet than they do in real life. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
"In heaven, even the fish have antlers"
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Would you listen to yourself for one minute? Yeah, I have 15 posts here. What does that have to do with anything. And how many of those 15 have you read? 2 maybe. Please point out to me where I whined or critized anyone or anything. Just because my opinion doesn't agree with someone else's doesn't necessarily mean I'm whining or criticizing someone.
I started off saying that I did not agree with the way someone else did something. I didn't crticize it. Someone else jumped down MY throat and came after me so I defended myself. What is so wrong with that? I'm sure there are plenty of people who agree with what I said too. In fact, I'm pretty sure I have a good solid arguement for my case here. On the other hand, all I've heard in defense has been "Leave him alone, he got the deer didn't he?" or "You're a whiner"
I apologize for expressing my viewpoint about a subject that matters to a lot of people. Apparently that isnt tolerated around here.
And by the way.....I love the comment about shooting deer in real life vs. talking about it on the internet. As if shooting MORE deer makes you a better hunter. Its people like you that go out and give good hunters like me a bad name.
EDIT: Hey check it out, I have 16 posts now. Am I allowed to disagree with people yet, or do I need 200 more?
Edited by - Zarr on 10/31/2002 13:35:49
It's not worth much. Just about all of your 15 posts are whining about something, or criticizing someone. Why do you come here anyway?
Huntingbry, you know what assuming does to ya don't ya? Not all zones are earn a buck, best know the regs yourself before telling them to others.
Great bucks, especially for NJ, congrats.
I suspect a lot of the detractors on this post shoot a lot more deer on the internet than they do in real life. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
"In heaven, even the fish have antlers"
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Would you listen to yourself for one minute? Yeah, I have 15 posts here. What does that have to do with anything. And how many of those 15 have you read? 2 maybe. Please point out to me where I whined or critized anyone or anything. Just because my opinion doesn't agree with someone else's doesn't necessarily mean I'm whining or criticizing someone.
I started off saying that I did not agree with the way someone else did something. I didn't crticize it. Someone else jumped down MY throat and came after me so I defended myself. What is so wrong with that? I'm sure there are plenty of people who agree with what I said too. In fact, I'm pretty sure I have a good solid arguement for my case here. On the other hand, all I've heard in defense has been "Leave him alone, he got the deer didn't he?" or "You're a whiner"
I apologize for expressing my viewpoint about a subject that matters to a lot of people. Apparently that isnt tolerated around here.
And by the way.....I love the comment about shooting deer in real life vs. talking about it on the internet. As if shooting MORE deer makes you a better hunter. Its people like you that go out and give good hunters like me a bad name.
EDIT: Hey check it out, I have 16 posts now. Am I allowed to disagree with people yet, or do I need 200 more?
Edited by - Zarr on 10/31/2002 13:35:49
10-31-2002 | 12:32 PM
#36
Giant Nontypical
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From: Phoenixville, PA USA
RE: 2 Bucks in 1 week
6ptsika, I'm not assuming anything, simply asking a question. If his zone is not an "earn a buck" zone he can say so. I know that the majority (I thought all were, but if not my mistake) are "earn a buck" and I hope that he got one Saturday or Monday morning, because that would be one helluva a week of hunting. If his zone is not "earn a buck" that is still two fine bucks in a week which is a great accomplishment. So please don't assume that I am assuming anything.
Midwest, I don't know that anyone has tried to degrade his achievement. As far as I can see, most everyone has congratulated Trock on his buck. Some questioned his shot decision, but as far as I'm concerned that's his decision. I'm sure he would not have taken the shot if he had doubts as to whether or not he would have harvested the deer. They may not have taken that shot, but it was his personal decision. There are other questions about whether he followed his state's regulations or not. That is not a personal decision, that is following the law. No one has made any accusations, just asked questions. I don't really see a problem with that. Do you?
Edited by - huntingbry on 10/31/2002 13:34:17
Edited by - huntingbry on 10/31/2002 14:23:57
Midwest, I don't know that anyone has tried to degrade his achievement. As far as I can see, most everyone has congratulated Trock on his buck. Some questioned his shot decision, but as far as I'm concerned that's his decision. I'm sure he would not have taken the shot if he had doubts as to whether or not he would have harvested the deer. They may not have taken that shot, but it was his personal decision. There are other questions about whether he followed his state's regulations or not. That is not a personal decision, that is following the law. No one has made any accusations, just asked questions. I don't really see a problem with that. Do you?
Edited by - huntingbry on 10/31/2002 13:34:17
Edited by - huntingbry on 10/31/2002 14:23:57
10-31-2002 | 02:02 PM
#38
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From: Hamilton Square NJ USA
RE: 2 Bucks in 1 week
Huntingbry, you did assume, and you did NOT ask a question. You stated...
"For those that don't I will lay out the general regualtions. Each individual season is "earn a buck" meaning you need to shoot and register an antlerless deer prior to taking an antlered deer"
You are wrong, each season and zone is NOT earn a buck, only certain zones in certain seasons.
and....
"The permit season started Saturday October 26 meaning a doe would need to be shot and registered that day or Monday morning so you could get your "any deer" transportation tag"
Once again, you assumed he was hunting in an EAB zone, which zone 25 is NOT.
Sure sounds like an indictment in my book.
No offense, that's just what you said3.
I just hate when people jump all over someone without knowing the story. I know someyimes it's jealousy, sometimes it's just a bad day, sometimes it's just trying to stir the pot, all kind of reasons.
I don't know the reaosns for the people here, and I won't guess.
I just think it's sad is all.
A skilled and ethical hunter took some nice bucks, and as can be expected, people jumped on him about it.
I didn't mean to tick anyone off, there's been enough of that today, unfortunately.
"In heaven, even the fish have antlers"
"For those that don't I will lay out the general regualtions. Each individual season is "earn a buck" meaning you need to shoot and register an antlerless deer prior to taking an antlered deer"
You are wrong, each season and zone is NOT earn a buck, only certain zones in certain seasons.
and....
"The permit season started Saturday October 26 meaning a doe would need to be shot and registered that day or Monday morning so you could get your "any deer" transportation tag"
Once again, you assumed he was hunting in an EAB zone, which zone 25 is NOT.
Sure sounds like an indictment in my book.
No offense, that's just what you said3.
I just hate when people jump all over someone without knowing the story. I know someyimes it's jealousy, sometimes it's just a bad day, sometimes it's just trying to stir the pot, all kind of reasons.
I don't know the reaosns for the people here, and I won't guess.
I just think it's sad is all.
A skilled and ethical hunter took some nice bucks, and as can be expected, people jumped on him about it.
I didn't mean to tick anyone off, there's been enough of that today, unfortunately.
"In heaven, even the fish have antlers"
10-31-2002 | 06:39 PM
#40
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From: fairfield pa USA
RE: 2 Bucks in 1 week
No question the shot was marginial alot of people would have waited but that was his choice. Second I congadulate him IF THEY WERE KILLED LEAGALY. I said in my post I didn't know what the law was and that I hoped it was legal. Now does any one know what the law is in zone 25? A few people keep saying don't assume what the law is well if you guy's hunt there tell us don't keep dancing around the subject! I am not accusing him of any thing I give him the benifit of the doubt but........ some thing does sound fishy here. I don't care who likes it I personaly WILL NOT TOLERATE POACHING! If some one is I garuntee you I will be on your rear end.