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ShadowAce 03-19-2006 08:59 PM

RE: Should Timber Companies Be Allowed To Lease All Their Land?
 

ORIGINAL: bkdawson07

La.TomKat, If you buy a hunting lic. and pay taxesyou are paying to hunt. The state needs to provide a better plan for tax payers andfolks who buy the hunting lic.'s. I to feelyou should not have to belong to some private club or a lease to have good quality land to hunt on.
Maybe you could buy your own land? Just because you pay taxes and buy a license doesn't mean you are entitled to have a place to hunt. Does that mean they should buy you a car also because you pay taxes and have a driver's license? I can't believe the mentality of some people. Always needing a handout or feeling like they are entitled to something. Gimme a break. The state does not have to provide you with anything. Provide what you need (or want in this case) for yourself. We'll all be better off.

txjourneyman 03-19-2006 09:05 PM

RE: Should Timber Companies Be Allowed To Lease All Their Land?
 
If I ever own enough land, and I mean 1000ac or more, I would charge people to hunt it. Family and close friends would be able to hunt for free by invitation. Anyone else would help me pay property taxes and maintenance costs. The world is not the place it once was. Here in Tx leasing is BIG business.
Sure, in a perfect world we would all have access to world class bucks every day of the season. This just isn't a perfect world.
LT I feel your pain. Tx is 96% privatly owned or some God awful figure like that. I pay to hunt and I probably always will. $350 for 2 days April 1st and 2nd our spring turkey opener. I love hunting. It is worth it to me so far. When I no longer feel as if I get value for my $, maybe then I quit. No, then I hunt what little public land there is here. The timber companies are capitalists, so am I.

bigbulls 03-19-2006 09:15 PM

RE: Should Timber Companies Be Allowed To Lease All Their Land?
 
Correct me if I am wrong but don't most of the timber companies also log on many of the national forrest and state lands?

For those that own 100% of the land that they log then they can do what ever they wish with their land within the laws.

For those companies that also log national forest and state land........ The national forests and state trust lands belong to all of us and as such when a timber company is allowed to log these lands they are taking away the forests that so many enjoy using for hunting and other activites. As such they should be required to provide free access to the land that they own. Yes I know they replant trees and some of the animals benefit from this loging but it still destroys favorite hunting spots and takes years to renew itself.

ShadowAce 03-19-2006 09:19 PM

RE: Should Timber Companies Be Allowed To Lease All Their Land?
 
Deer are one of the species that benefit from logging.

kevin1 03-20-2006 04:32 AM

RE: Should Timber Companies Be Allowed To Lease All Their Land?
 


ORIGINAL: ShadowAce

Shouldn't YOU be allowed to do whatever you want with your land?
That says it all right there , it's their private land to do with as they wish .

LouisianaTomkat 03-20-2006 06:42 AM

RE: Should Timber Companies Be Allowed To Lease All Their Land?
 
Let me tell you what Shadowace, If I needed a handout, I would definately not be looking to a GREED infested world of timber companies for it nor the gov't. That's the problem with this world no one "WANTS" to help anyone. It's all ME, ME, ME! I am so sick of hearing the self righteous antics of our gov't while their pockets get fatter and fatter. No it doesn't entitle me to a place to hunt when I buy a license every year, but you let me kill a deer ilegally out of season or the wrong sex and see who gets the money for the fine. Who gets to take away my gun, bow, four wheeler, license, and charges me a fine. That's our good old american way showing through. But that's not even what the post was started for. I appreciate the "I feel your pain" statements above. These are folks who know what I am talking about. And yes, as I stated before, this post is only a post for opinions. Just hoping to get some input like that from Kansas. That is good info., and I will be checking into that. Regardless, I wonder how much you pay to hunt every year shadowace?

LT

Cougar Mag 03-20-2006 06:50 AM

RE: Should Timber Companies Be Allowed To Lease All Their Land?
 
Yes, anyone or anything should be able to do what they wish with their land. Yes, I wish timber companies would lease thier land to the state or let people use it for free. I do happen to know of 270 acres of river bottom land a paper company owns, and they don't lease it.....its just there. They come in and cut down what they need about every 5-7 years. So I hunt there and they could care less. Most likely when its of no value to them they will sell it.......if I could come up with the money I would buy it.

turtleshell 03-20-2006 07:37 AM

RE: Should Timber Companies Be Allowed To Lease All Their Land?
 

ORIGINAL: LouisianaTomkat

What would you do if you had ONLY 40 acres? I mean we are comparing thousands and thousands of acres to 40. I would let any respectable person hunt my land as long as they didn't trash up the place and break laws. Not an issue with who or how many, the issue is I would never charge someone to hunt my land. LT
I don't have any acres. I'd either buy some more or just get over myself...oh yeah I'm very clean;)

Double Creek 03-20-2006 08:16 AM

RE: Should Timber Companies Be Allowed To Lease All Their Land?
 
Everyone in this Country has the opportunity to do just about anything they wish.....If you want something bad enough, you can accomplish your dreams and goals......

davidmil 03-20-2006 10:12 AM

RE: Should Timber Companies Be Allowed To Lease All Their Land?
 
Boy was just used as a term, like heck man, whoa boy, whatever. It was in no way intended to question your maturity, manhood or mental abilities.... even if you are just a baby age wise at 38. Heck, at 38 I felt 18. When you get over 60 everyone is a boy except for the likes of RonM and a few other Crotchetty old Farts on here.

As far as the "Greed" theory????? Are you insinuating or suggesting that they should make less money than they can and leave money behind so their stock falls, their employees can't get pay raises, they can't have money to buy more property, plant and expand their business???????? I suggest you take a pay cut, just think how much less something might cost or how much "I" might benefit from you loosing. I think it's greed on your part to want to make the most you can.[&:][&:][8D][8D]


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