I understand. But ultimately this deer or his progeny could easily be helping proliferate or at least sustain "hunting" methods that many hunters have an ethical-type problem with.

I've known a lot of hunters and farmers and I've never known one to raise deer for personal enjoyment (unless it was some local orphaned fawn they found or thatshowed up at their house).

I mean, it seems pretty reasonable to me to assume that this guyis in it for money or , if not, at least the money and the current market placeare a very fortuitouscoincidence.

I just can't think of too many positive uses, imho,for this animals career.

Doesn't keep me from appreciating his size, just makes me wonder.

thanks

Yeah, I didn't mean just personal enjoyment, though he'll talk your ear off for hours upon hours if you walk into his shop and even pretend to know anything about deer. I'd agree that the monetary compensation comprises a big part of why he does it too.

Like I said, he's a nice pumuped up buck. You didn't squirt my cereal, but had you not mentioned fence or shown it or anything you'd have wowed the crowd here with that picture.

Kinda like Bonds on 'roids .......... he's nothing special now because he's all jucied up. This buck if natural would be a WOW ! buck. As it is ? He's livestock, nothing more.

Priceless to who ? Other game farmers ? Bass Pro ? Noel Feather ? Who ?

lpv77 - non-typical growth can be genetic, or caused by trauma, it can be a one year deal or every year the buck grows its antlers. It can be when the deer gets older because the body is fully grown and all the extra stuff goes to the horns. Many things factor into antler growth.

Why ? Do cattle farms suck ? Chicken farms ? Turnkey Farms ?

No, they don't suck, so why should deer farms ? Maybe its because these deer farm bucks often are passed off as wild deer ? I think thats the case, and because of that its not the deer farm, its the piss poor "hunters" thats the problem. BTW Greg/ Mo is not trying to do the above - just making a point is all

And there is the problem .........

Unfortunetly, Deer farmers can't seem to keep their diseased ridden deer from escaping into the wild...Theyalso promoteand supply themarket for very unethical canned hunts. Cows, chickens and turkeys have all been bred for domestication. Deer are and should remain wild. These operations do nothing good for the reputation of hunting.

That is an impressive deer...I would love to see him in 2-3 years!!!

I agree that his nose is way too long and shoulders and briskit too blocky to be 1.5 yrs. JMHO

I've read a lot on deer farms and I can honestly say I never heard of this happening you have an article or anything to back that statement up.

It's a nice pet.BTW

Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection news release 1/13/06:
Fence Cut on Portage County White-Tailed Deer Preserve; DNR to Begin Shooting in Area
MADISON - The perimeter fence was intentionally cut at Buckhorn Flats, an Almond hunting preserve infected with chronic wasting disease (CWD), natural resources and agriculture officials reported Friday. State officials are concerned because of possible exposure of wild (free-ranging) deer to the disease.
It is unknown when the fence was cut or if any deer are missing. Department of Natural Resources (DNR) shooters will immediately begin shooting deer around the borders of the property.
"This was not an accident. There was roughly a three-foot-square area of the woven wire fence cut and wired back to form an opening," said DNR CWD Project Leader Alan Crossley.
State Veterinarian Dr. Robert Ehlenfeldt, of the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection (DATCP), said that about 40 bucks are in the hunting preserve, based on earlier statements from the owner. Deer in preserves roam free over a large fenced-in area, rather than being in pens, so it is difficult to get a detailed count. There are about 79 does, fawns, and yearling bucks fenced in smaller breeding pens on the farm. The fence around that area was not breached.
Hall reported the breach in the fence to the DNR when he noticed it Thursday, Jan. 12. Within hours, DNR personnel were checking the area around the property for escaped deer, and a U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) veterinarian working with DATCP was on site to inspect inside the fence and interview Hall.
Crossley said DNR staff will begin shooting deer outside the fence late Friday; all deer shot will be tested for CWD.
Wisconsin's first case of CWD in a farm-raised animal was in a hunter-harvested deer from Hall's preserve in September 2002, seven months after CWD was first diagnosed in the state's wild deer herd. Most of the other 19 animals from the herd that have tested positive since then were also trophy deer shot by hunters and routinely tested for CWD, as state law requires.
Although his herd has been quarantined since the original discovery of CWD, the quarantine required only that no live animals leave his property. He continued hunts through 2004, but in 2005, was no longer permitted to conduct hunts because his 59-acre preserve did not meet a new requirement that hunting preserves include at least 80 acres.
The State Veterinarian ordered Hall's deer to be killed for testing in July 2003. The order has been in litigation since then, but DATCP, USDA and Hall recently signed an agreement under which the deer will be destroyed in the near future. Hall is to be compensated for the animals.
Veterinarians and inspectors from the USDA and DATCP have monitored Hall's property regularly since the original discovery, and every deer has been tested for CWD that was shot or found dead and in good enough condition to sample.
To date, no CWD-positive deer have been found in the wild in central Wisconsin, where the hunting preserve is located. Since the discovery of CWD on Hall's property, the DNR has tested 738 deer from Portage County and 1,078 from neighboring Waushara County.
The DATCP and DNR share responsibility for white-tailed deer farms and hunting preserves. DATCP registers the farms and administers the CWD monitoring program and other health programs. Because the fencing protects the free-ranging white-tail herd that falls under DNR authority, that agency regulates fences around these properties.
Law enforcement authorities are investigating. Anyone with information that may aid in identifying the person(s) responsible is encouraged to call the Portage County Sheriff's Department at 715-Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection news release today:
Fence Cut on Portage County White-Tailed Deer Preserve; DNR to Begin Shooting in Area
MADISON - The perimeter fence was intentionally cut at Buckhorn Flats, an Almond hunting preserve infected with chronic wasting disease (CWD), natural resources and agriculture officials reported Friday. State officials are concerned because of possible exposure of wild (free-ranging) deer to the disease.
It is unknown when the fence was cut or if any deer are missing. Department of Natural Resources (DNR) shooters will immediately begin shooting deer around the borders of the property.
"This was not an accident. There was roughly a three-foot-square area of the woven wire fence cut and wired back to form an opening," said DNR CWD Project Leader Alan Crossley.
State Veterinarian Dr. Robert Ehlenfeldt, of the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection (DATCP), said that about 40 bucks are in the hunting preserve, based on earlier statements from the owner. Deer in preserves roam free over a large fenced-in area, rather than being in pens, so it is difficult to get a detailed count. There are about 79 does, fawns, and yearling bucks fenced in smaller breeding pens on the farm. The fence around that area was not breached.
Hall reported the breach in the fence to the DNR when he noticed it Thursday, Jan. 12. Within hours, DNR personnel were checking the area around the property for escaped deer, and a U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) veterinarian working with DATCP was on site to inspect inside the fence and interview Hall.
Crossley said DNR staff will begin shooting deer outside the fence late Friday; all deer shot will be tested for CWD.
Wisconsin's first case of CWD in a farm-raised animal was in a hunter-harvested deer from Hall's preserve in September 2002, seven months after CWD was first diagnosed in the state's wild deer herd. Most of the other 19 animals from the herd that have tested positive since then were also trophy deer shot by hunters and routinely tested for CWD, as state law requires.
Although his herd has been quarantined since the original discovery of CWD, the quarantine required only that no live animals leave his property. He continued hunts through 2004, but in 2005, was no longer permitted to conduct hunts because his 59-acre preserve did not meet a new requirement that hunting preserves include at least 80 acres.
The State Veterinarian ordered Hall's deer to be killed for testing in July 2003. The order has been in litigation since then, but DATCP, USDA and Hall recently signed an agreement under which the deer will be destroyed in the near future. Hall is to be compensated for the animals.
Veterinarians and inspectors from the USDA and DATCP have monitored Hall's property regularly since the original discovery, and every deer has been tested for CWD that was shot or found dead and in good enough condition to sample.
To date, no CWD-positive deer have been found in the wild in central Wisconsin, where the hunting preserve is located. Since the discovery of CWD on Hall's property, the DNR has tested 738 deer from Portage County and 1,078 from neighboring Waushara County.
The DATCP and DNR share responsibility for white-tailed deer farms and hunting preserves. DATCP registers the farms and administers the CWD monitoring program and other health programs. Because the fencing protects the free-ranging white-tail herd that falls under DNR authority, that agency regulates fences around these properties.
Law enforcement authorities are investigating. Anyone with information that may aid in identifying the person(s) responsible is encouraged to call the Portage County Sheriff's Department at 715-346-1400 or the DNR Poacher Hotline at 1-800-TIP-WDNR.

In addition to the above:


From DATCP 3/3/06:
Laboratory results from white-tailed deer killed on a Portage County farm earlier this year show that 60 of the 76 animals tested positive for chronic wasting disease.
The deer - a mix of does and yearlings - were destroyed Jan. 17 by U.S. Department of Agriculture shooters under a USDA agreement with the owner, Stan Hall. Tissue samples were sent to the Wisconsin Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory for initial screening tests and to the USDA National Veterinary Services Laboratories in Ames, Iowa, for confirmation.
The 76 deer constituted the breeding herd on Hall's farm, known as Buckhorn Flats. He also operated a hunting preserve on the property until 2005. Four deer - two does and two fawns - killed in the former preserve were also tested. CWD was not detected in those animals.
Hall will receive state and federal indemnity payments for the 76 deer killed in the breeding pens. The amount of compensation, which is based on breeding age and trophy status, has not been finalized.
The first case of CWD among Wisconsin's farm-raised deer occurred in a buck shot by a hunter at Buckhorn Flats in September 2002. These results bring to 82 the total number of Hall's CWD-positive animals.
The property will undergo cleaning and disinfection when weather permits. No species of deer or elk can be brought onto the property for five years, and fences must be maintained to keep wild deer from entering the property.
Other than Buckhorn Flats, CWD has been found in 12 white-tailed deer and 1 elk on six other Wisconsin farms.

Ok how is it the farmers fault some jerk cut the fence? These deer didn't escape they were set loose.

I really don't like high fence operations, but that was intentional stupidity on some one part.