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gutshot 02-14-2006 02:21 PM

RE: "Air Rest" Levitating arrow rest
 
Ohio Ross don't let them get to you some people on here think that everybody is entitled to their opinion. I think that it's sad that every time a factory rep comes on here and talks good about their product people automatically dismiss their opinion as being bought and paid for but if "Joe Schmo" comes in and braggs about it he can be trusted. I value your opinion and if I had$150.00 to spend on a rest I would give this one a try.

turtleshell 02-14-2006 02:47 PM

RE: "Air Rest" Levitating arrow rest
 
I guess the guys who don't like factory reps because their opinions may be "biased" would never accept a product for free or discount and if they did and they liked it then surely they wouldn't tell anyone for fear of being attacked as having their opinion bought. Jesus cut the guy a little slack. And oh yeah just because you have posted more than someone else doesn't make you an expert on anything it just means you spend more time on the computer or found this site before others. JMHO

Proff 02-14-2006 03:27 PM

RE: "Air Rest" Levitating arrow rest
 
Great posts gutshot and turtleshell. I love this forum and have a great time here, until stuff like this gets going. Ohio Ross just came on and gave HIS opinion of the rest because he has used it and likes it. Maybe some guys think it looks like a gimmick. Gee, I remember when others were saying stuff like this about the Zero Effect.... The samerest that many, many hunters, including myself, have been using for years now and still love it. I will be honest, when I saw the Air rest a few weeks ago for the first time in my new issue of Peterson's Bowhunting, I was skeptical too. I showed it to a buddy and we both questioned it and had some concerns about it. But I sure as heck am not gonna start ripping someone who has used it and beleives in it just because I have my questions about it. And that is just what happened here. Ohio Ross uses it and loves it and gave an answer to someones opinion who HASN"T used and and ripped it, then it all goes downhill from there. Hey, if a guy is a factory rep or a pro staff shooter for a company, then obviously they believe in the product and have a right to defend it just like someone has a right to question it. But I must say, in my opinion, the person who at least has actually used the product has more of a right to give an honest assesment than someone who just saw it and formed their negative opinion. I am not trying to throw gas on the fire, and I will not get into an ongoing fued with anyone on here ( actually this ishonestly the first time I have ever really directed an opinion to someone like this on here), but I really feel that a few of you that are blaming Ohio Ross for the negative direction that this thread hasturned really need to examine your input in this casealso, and see where some of the blame lies. I just don't see the positive in tearing down someone who beleives in a product that was derived from their personal usage of the product. And I wholeheartily agree that the number of posts a person has made doesn't make their opinion any more or less valuable than anyone else's. I have gained alot of knowledge, insight, help and entertainment from alot of great people on here and hope that I in turn return the favor. Truthfully, we are all on here for the same reason, our love of archery and bowhunting. It is a shame that sometimes this garbage has to happen. Hang in there Ohio Ross, and stick around. There are alot of great people on here. And thanks to everyonefor your opinions. Some just come across a little stronger or more negative than needed. Take care everyone.

Rob/PA Bowyer 02-14-2006 05:27 PM

RE: "Air Rest" Levitating arrow rest
 
Let's get back on topic, if you have experience with this rest, post about it, if you've never used it...perhaps you should try it before you bash it...I have no experience with it....I trust Matt's thoughts on it and until I have the opportunity to try it, I'll listen to those who have.

aeroslinger 02-14-2006 07:29 PM

RE: "Air Rest" Levitating arrow rest
 
So........ what do you guys think about Scentlok? [8D] Just kidding. It certainly seems like an interesting rest. Its fun to see people always thinking. We will always be in search of the holy grail - perfect, repeatable arrow flight. ;) Ohio Ross, you should get Air Rest to give you one to send to bearklr and let him try it out. For that matter, pick a couple. Maybe Len, Arthur. You would get an honest assessment, good or bad, and if its good they couldn't buy better advertisement. I bet I'm not the only one who'd like to see some hands on testing results. Of course, Arthur may end up taking your spot on the Air Rest staff.:D:D

Len in Maryland 02-14-2006 08:00 PM

RE: "Air Rest" Levitating arrow rest
 
Ohio Ross Guy:[/align][/align]

i find it kind of funny that you have no idea what your talking about....the fleece is there in case you tilt your arrow the wrong way and it hits the side.
[/align][/align]This statement may have been better accepted if the first part had been eliminatedso as to read; "The fleece is there in case you tilt your arrow the wrong way and it hits the side."[/align][/align]

this rest works great enough that im going to use it at the indoor worlds
[/align][/align]Since this is a entitled a "Bowhunting" forum, usage "at the indoor worlds" may not have as much impact as you think.[/align][/align]

but untill people open their minds and give one a try,they will just presume
[/align][/align]If youtook the time to go to the link I provided, youwould see that I tried to use this rest andit didn't work. It was set up by the manufacturer, so I'm sureTHEY knew how to set it up correctly. It's a good idea that needs more work before they try tosell it to a market that covers a much broader spectrum than target archery.[/align][/align]

this rest will tell you if you have bad form...if you creep foward the arrow will drop.
[/align][/align]In a "Bowhunting" format, creeping forward can be an everyday occurrence. That in itself can be the criteria for non-acceptance by the largest segment of the archery industry.[/align][/align]

it helps to have a bow with a solid wall or draw stop so you can only draw it so far...if you draw to far back then it will drop or go to the side of the rest....
[/align][/align]First, not all bows have 'solid' back walls and/or draw stop capabilities. There are a lot of older one-cam, two-cam, and hybrid cam bows in the field that have either softer back walls or no back walls. Second, drawing back too far and having it drop is a function of the first item and is cause for 'failure'.[/align][/align]

if this happens it is because you either set it up wrong or you have bad form
[/align][/align]Part A of this sentence has been explained by the above and Part B is an insult to a lot of hunters. Hunting form can be a lot different than target form in both equipment and set-up. I just did a seminar on this subject.[/align][/align]

i have good form and have never had a problem with it dropping.
[/align][/align]Congratulations. But remember, we're in a different venue here.[/align][/align]

the way mine is set up it has a little more than a 1/4 of creep before it will drop....
[/align][/align]1/4 (") of creep is not much in the haste associated with some hunting scenarios; especially when you don't have a 'hard' back wall or a draw stop that can move.[/align][/align]This is what I posted:[/align]

I love when a'staff shooter' comes on here to promote items they are probably given and expect other archers/hunters to shell out some heavy money for an 'developmental' product.
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If you read the text carefully, you'll note that I used the word "probably". I guess it hit a nerve because you reacted adversely.

I hope that you and others take the time to check out this link. You will find that I have high hopes for this rest, but feel that it needs a lot more developmentalwork before it'smarketed to the industry as a whole.

Anyway, this subject was covered quite well in the 'Technical' section on this forum. Here isa link and just one post of quite a fewthat I made:
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1395540&mpage=1[/align]

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Ohio Ross Guy 02-14-2006 09:08 PM

RE: "Air Rest" Levitating arrow rest
 
len,when i was talking about bad form it was in no way meant to be an insult.yes the statement you said didbother mebecause i do pay for the things i have even though i am astaff shooter and it felt like a personal attack...maybe thats not how you intended it to be but thats how it sounded to me.i guess i could have thought it out a little more...im over it and now im going to go check out the link you posted and maybe compare some information.im curious to see what problems you had with it and to see if its something that can be fixed or changed.

jsasker 02-15-2006 06:32 AM

RE: "Air Rest" Levitating arrow rest
 
Anyone ever drop one before it was installed and have the polarity reversed on the mangets?

bearklr 02-15-2006 06:56 AM

RE: "Air Rest" Levitating arrow rest
 
That's a good point. I also read on their site that high temps can cause the magnets to lose power.Is thisan issue? I know we really don't get our bows close to a fire or anything but I imagine a black bow case could get pretty hot in the sun.

Ohio Ross Guy 02-15-2006 06:59 AM

RE: "Air Rest" Levitating arrow rest
 

ORIGINAL: bearklr

That's a good point. I also read on their site that high temps can cause the magnets to lose power.Is thisan issue? I know we really don't get our bows close to a fire or anything but I imagine a black bow case could get pretty hot in the sun.
i believe it has to get to 270+ degrees to effect the magnet....i will find out..i dont think that dropping the magnets will effect the polarity but if dropped hard enough could crack or break the magnet


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