Good thing you don't get paid to analyze problems cause you were a galaxy away on this one...

Implied in your mind perhaps, but they are both factual...There were two deer that left the scene together and there is no reason to turn myself in because no laws were broken.

You know a little commons sense goes a long way. I remember a few years ago one of our esteemed (and I mean that respectfully) moderators entitled a thread something to the effect of "Help, Ihit running deer at 50 yards and I can't find it"... I knew right away that wasn't the case just because of who he was. As has been pointed out, even if that happened, that type of individual is not going to put it on a public forum...think about it....

The fact that I am responding to this statementproves to myself I am an idiot.


Atlas I am usually amazed at your perspective of things so this is just par for the course. Where we differ however is that I respect your right to your opinion and refrain from attacking you.

I find your "know it all" attitude about bow huntingafter harvesting a couple of button bucks and a few (is that accurate or am I grossly off) other deer with a bow to be somewhat amusing.

Your own words show your ignorance on the subject of fetus' in relationship to breeding periods and fawn develpment. Many fetuses are photographed, frozen, and measured. While I would like to be able to take credit for the science of it I must admit I am not that sharp. This data provides information about the herd that some of us are interestedin and can learn from. I am sorry it does not meet your high standards.Our gun season just ended here the 18thand tens of thousand of does have been harvested in that venue. I would venture to say that over 90% of the folks that kill a doe in post rut are not aware the fetus is even in the gut pile.

It is not "sick" in any way nor "disrespectful" to the animal to inspect the fetus. Quite the contrary.It is for lack of a better word, a compliment to the species that a person would take the time, go to that effort,and have the know how to find a fetus as well as record any information it can give.

Surely youinspect the vitals of your kill for information...No more disrespectful or sick to do that thanto inspect the fetus for information. I don't expect most people to go to the extremes that I do to further their knowledge about their local herd. I don't look down on those that don't put that kind of effort into it, it is just something I do for my own knowledge and development.

Atlas even when I hunted in highpressured areas for meat years ago I chose not to shoot button bucks. When you shot one this year I sincerely congratulated you for it and didn't attack you for something I find rather silly. Further, I would fight for your right to hunt and shoot whatever was legal and not think twice about it. Again without attacking your style.
This thread is not even close to giving hunting a black eye. For that to happen you would have to look in the mirror!

I think anyone who has readAE's posts knows what kind of hunter and sportsman he is. I was suprised to see some of the members who jumped on him with such sketchy details of the hunt posted. When I read the post yesterday evening I thought it was a joke in regards to the ethics thread.

I see nothing wrong with the thread or the photos. I enjoyed the pics myself as I have never saw a deer fetus before.

Congrats on your doe harvest and best of luck on the next.

*EDIT*

I just read your last response. I 100% agree. Right on

Not at all........right on the money given what was posted.





How can you remember seeing 2 deer leave the scene?? You would have had to know she was pregnant for that to be true.


So you are admitting to trolling? Nice to know only "new" people here are dumb enough to post when they make a mistake........and all the seasoned board members just keep them quiet


Yea.......by biologists and those studying deer.......not some dude that kills a doe and keeps it's unborn in his freezer next to the ice cream.......then posts pics in a public forum that have no educational value at all. You are a true hero of scientific research.


How do your pics accomplish this?


So what??


I'm sure she appreciates that "compliment"..........If that deer had known you were gonna take it's unborn home and put it on ice only to post weird pics of it on the net I'm sure she would have jumped in front of you to be first in line for that "honor"


BIG difference........I see what was hit and relate it to blood trail and distance covered before piling up.......I also check the stomach to see where and what they were eating. I don't take the organs home and put them in the freezer to take pictures of.


What possible information are you obtaining looking at that thing in your freezer??


I didn't shoot a button buck.........I shot 2 of them.......and a spiker. I really couldn't care less what you or anyone else thinks about what I shoot. I hunt for me.......and no one else.


Show this thread to any anti or even non hunter and I bet you get a different opinion.

For my own information......

Is anyone else tired of atlas's constant bickering?

Really get over yourself all ready.

I want so badly to put atlas on ignore but can't make myself do it. The shock value of his outlook on most everythingkeeps me from hitting that little red block button.

AE, I thought that was clever. I read all the responses and found it amusing how they just kept attacking you without getting answers to thier questions! Alot of asuming was jumpn' off.

Not make enemies, but yes I agree buckeye. Everyone has the right to their own opinions but he can't seem to agree with anyone.

Antler, I thought there was a little more to your first post than met the eye, especially after reading your story about your buck for the hunting contest. If you are not getting paid for writing you should be.
I just hope that this is not your entryfor next years buck contest [8D]

Well this response is from a new member and after reading the entire thread then rereading the original post I still read it to say that you killed 2 deer not a deer carring a fetus.. personally I feel the post was in bad taste and seams like it was posted just to see if you could get people going.. it was very misleading.. this is just my opinion..
I would never make a post like that I would say a killed a doe carring a fetus.. why push peoples buttons...????????
let someone that is against hunting read that post and ask them how it comes accross to them bet they would use it to try to ban hunting...

The 3rd degree reminds me of a few Pa. game wardens I've heard about.I love how people assume eveyones guilty. what wrong with the world today.Give the benefit of doubt,wheres the love?

A real twisted sense of humor [:'(]to say the least.

Don't even bring that crap into this forum please.