Got some pics of a nice buck in my yard
#21
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From: Hurley, NY
Nice pics!!
I have no problems throwing some apples, corn or whatever else the deer need to survive a harsh winter on the ground for them.. The DEC has done absolutely NOTHING to curb the unethical poachers in my area so I say screw them. I will never shoot any animal over a pile of food but if I can help them eat than I will. I really enjoy checking my trail cam to see which foods they enjoy more than others.
I have no problems throwing some apples, corn or whatever else the deer need to survive a harsh winter on the ground for them.. The DEC has done absolutely NOTHING to curb the unethical poachers in my area so I say screw them. I will never shoot any animal over a pile of food but if I can help them eat than I will. I really enjoy checking my trail cam to see which foods they enjoy more than others.
#22
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However, I never accused you of hunting in your backyard; and never said if i agreed with the law or not because its irrelevant; I simply questioned the fact that if you are willing to break the Environmental Conservations law in your own back yard,
You said I was breaking the law while representing myself as a hunter. That is untrue...........what I do as a hunter has nothing to do with what I do in my yard.
However, I never accused you of hunting in your backyard; and never said if i agreed with the law or not because its irrelevant; I simply questioned the fact that if you are willing to break the Environmental Conservations law in your own back yard,
You said I was breaking the law while representing myself as a hunter. That is untrue...........what I do as a hunter has nothing to do with what I do in my yard.
So , we would have work ethics, family ethics, ETC... and we would changed our ethics all the time, depending on the situation we were in.
If you think about he's right, how many times have we seen a guy convicted of a serious crime be the great neighbor. The guy was a great guy in his community, people loved him. He had two sets ethics also, one he wanted people to believe he, and his true ethics.
Did I get this right?
#23
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From: NY
ORIGINAL: ghemry
So if we use the above logic we can assume people have Hunting ethics and back yard ethics. Back yard ethics has nothing to do with the way we hunt, because people have a different set of ethics for when they hunt.
So , we would have work ethics, family ethics, ETC... and we would changed our ethics all the time, depending on the situation we were in.
So if we use the above logic we can assume people have Hunting ethics and back yard ethics. Back yard ethics has nothing to do with the way we hunt, because people have a different set of ethics for when they hunt.
So , we would have work ethics, family ethics, ETC... and we would changed our ethics all the time, depending on the situation we were in.
#24
No, what I ask and I over did just to be a #####(fill in the blanks). What we do in our lives has nothing to do with hunting is just plain not true. We all have broken a law, I have stayed in the stand to long(etc). We are all not perfect, and all of us know were not. I just was pointing out the flaw in your logic. You can do what you want in your backyard, but when you hunt, you have different standard. As usual you blew it way out contest and wrote very, well for a lack of a better word, stupid response.
Those are great deer, one would really help your team. Poor Motown is all alone on your team. Get out there and help the guy!!!
****Note I edit because I made no sense and said something stupid!!! Thank Atlas for pointing it out to me!!
Those are great deer, one would really help your team. Poor Motown is all alone on your team. Get out there and help the guy!!!
****Note I edit because I made no sense and said something stupid!!! Thank Atlas for pointing it out to me!!
#25
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This is getting out of hand quickly;
First I fail to see where the number of posts a person has could possibly correlate to the validity of their opinion; you just have way more computer time available than I do. I know lots of wind bags who like to comment on everything; however, that doesn't mean they are anymore right or wrong than the next guy, they just like to talk a lot.
Secondly, I originally said "I HOPE your not..."; The way I see it, with the possibility of CWD becoming a very serious issue in NY; i feel its a poor choice to feed deer right now till we know how bad the problem is. Unless the deer are now dependent upon human supplimental feeding and are tame pets, they would move on if you stopped feeding them; especially this early in winter after they finished off your shrubs of course.However, my issue was with you not only feeding deer illegally; but the fact that you posted the evidence for your own prossecution as if you are above the law or something; and then when i confronted you on it you tried to lie and cover it up; then make excuses for it.
**If you had simply said "I know its illegal, but my landscaping bill is killing me..." I could have respected THAT, and just thought that you were crazy for posting the evidence. **
If you were ticketed tommorow for feeding deer, how would you plead? I hope you would own up to it and plead guilty. Hunters have enough problems in this Liberal state without more headlines about hunters / people feeding deer illegally.
Poachers, tresspassers ect... all have excuses and justifications for what they do and it still doesn't make it legal / right. Thats all i was saying. This could have played out a lot differently if you owned up to it instead of blaiming it on your bird feeders. Lastly, some of your comments were amusing, and by the way, I only know what i see you post here; and for you to post your own criminal activity is crazy. By the way, its legal to sit in your stand anytime you want; you just can't shoot before or after legal hours. Believe me, i know law.
Have a great day.
First I fail to see where the number of posts a person has could possibly correlate to the validity of their opinion; you just have way more computer time available than I do. I know lots of wind bags who like to comment on everything; however, that doesn't mean they are anymore right or wrong than the next guy, they just like to talk a lot.
Secondly, I originally said "I HOPE your not..."; The way I see it, with the possibility of CWD becoming a very serious issue in NY; i feel its a poor choice to feed deer right now till we know how bad the problem is. Unless the deer are now dependent upon human supplimental feeding and are tame pets, they would move on if you stopped feeding them; especially this early in winter after they finished off your shrubs of course.However, my issue was with you not only feeding deer illegally; but the fact that you posted the evidence for your own prossecution as if you are above the law or something; and then when i confronted you on it you tried to lie and cover it up; then make excuses for it.
**If you had simply said "I know its illegal, but my landscaping bill is killing me..." I could have respected THAT, and just thought that you were crazy for posting the evidence. **
If you were ticketed tommorow for feeding deer, how would you plead? I hope you would own up to it and plead guilty. Hunters have enough problems in this Liberal state without more headlines about hunters / people feeding deer illegally.
Poachers, tresspassers ect... all have excuses and justifications for what they do and it still doesn't make it legal / right. Thats all i was saying. This could have played out a lot differently if you owned up to it instead of blaiming it on your bird feeders. Lastly, some of your comments were amusing, and by the way, I only know what i see you post here; and for you to post your own criminal activity is crazy. By the way, its legal to sit in your stand anytime you want; you just can't shoot before or after legal hours. Believe me, i know law.
Have a great day.
#26
You are trying to apply two different standards to someone's ethics. Ethics are "doing the right thing".
#27
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From: NY
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Guy who great guy at work and a poacher in the woods is the same guy at work just no one has seen it yet.
Guy who great guy at work and a poacher in the woods is the same guy at work just no one has seen it yet.
Those are great deer, one would really help your team. Poor Motown is all alone on your team. Get out there and help the guy!!!
#28
I agree , I just can not word it correctly.
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ORIGINAL: ghemry
Guy who great guy at work and a poacher in the woods is the same guy at work just no one has seen it yet.
That is just stupid.
ORIGINAL: ghemry
Guy who great guy at work and a poacher in the woods is the same guy at work just no one has seen it yet.
That is just stupid.
#29
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From: NY
ORIGINAL: RMQ
This is getting out of hand quickly;
First I fail to see where the number of posts a person has could possibly correlate to the validity of their opinion
This is getting out of hand quickly;
First I fail to see where the number of posts a person has could possibly correlate to the validity of their opinion
you just have way more computer time available than I do.
I know lots of wind bags who like to comment on everything; however, that doesn't mean they are anymore right or wrong than the next guy, they just like to talk a lot.
The way I see it, with the possibility of CWD becoming a very serious issue in NY; i feel its a poor choice to feed deer right now till we know how bad the problem is.
Unless the deer are now dependent upon human supplimental feeding and are tame pets, they would move on if you stopped feeding them;
especially this early in winter after they finished off your shrubs of course.
However, my issue was with you not only feeding deer illegally; but the fact that you posted the evidence for your own prossecution as if you are above the law or something
..........get a clue man. I was posting some pics of a nice buck on a forum where people like to see nice bucks. Anything else you dreamed up is your problem.
and then when i confronted you on it you tried to lie and cover it up; then make excuses for it.
**If you had simply said "I know its illegal, but my landscaping bill is killing me..." I could have respected THAT, and just thought that you were crazy for posting the evidence. **
If you were ticketed tommorow for feeding deer, how would you plead?

I hope you would own up to it and plead guilty. Hunters have enough problems in this Liberal state without more headlines about hunters / people feeding deer illegally.
Poachers, tresspassers ect... all have excuses and justifications for what they do and it still doesn't make it legal / right. Thats all i was saying.

This could have played out a lot differently if you owned up to it instead of blaiming it on your bird feeders.
By the way, its legal to sit in your stand anytime you want; you just can't shoot before or after legal hours. Believe me, i know law.
Have a great day.
Have a great day.
To hunt—means to pursue, shoot, kill or capture (other than trap) wildlife and includes all lesser acts that disturb or worry wildlife whether or not they result in taking. Hunting also includes all acts to assist another person in taking wildlife.
Go sit in the woods in the middle of summer with your shotgun loaded with slugs and see if a game officer cares when you say "I didn't shoot anything"


