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HandB274234 11-10-2005 01:38 PM

Was this a bad shot?
 
Whatta you guys think about this shot?

GR8atta2d 11-10-2005 01:41 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
Looks like a good shot to me! Thedeer is dead. I know I can shoot my 3d through the eye at 30 yards.

Before I get jumped here, I'm not recommending this shot. But you cannot argue it's effectiveness.

superflyhunter 11-10-2005 01:41 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
Its dead aint it?


superflyhunter 11-10-2005 01:45 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
Is that even a real pic? There is no blood anywhere. Not even the back of the head. Prob got hit by a car. I agree with both car hits and that shot though.

quiksilver 11-10-2005 01:57 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
Well, judging from the picture, I'd guess that deer wasn't shot while hunting.

The deer isn't field-dressed and is laying on the pavement. The arrow through its head is a target arrow with a field tip. Also, you can see the darkness around the perimeter of the picture, which leads me to believe that the photo was taken at night, with a flash.

My guess is that this particular animal was dispatched secondary to a vehicle collision. If my hunch is right, they did the right thing by putting thedoe down with whatever lethal force was at hand - in this case - it was a target bow.

Maybe I'm wrong, but good food for thought.

In a hunting scenario, however,that's nothing to be proud of.

RTA47 11-10-2005 02:20 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
Well you did not mess up any meat!

jsasker 11-10-2005 02:25 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
No broadhead?

sportsman22 11-10-2005 02:26 PM

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Nice field tips.

sportsman22 11-10-2005 02:27 PM

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ORIGINAL: jsasker

No broadhead?
lol u beat me to it

MOTOWNHONKEY 11-10-2005 03:37 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
If you have to ask if that is a good shot than you need a lesson in ethical hunting.

bowtech die hard 11-10-2005 03:53 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
wow, that's totally messed up, i guess....okay whatever

Kybuckhunter 11-10-2005 06:45 PM

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If someone did shoot it in a hunting situation they need to have their hunting rights taken away for life.

rrb259 11-11-2005 07:19 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
I'd have never thought to aim at the head!!! however I have wondered if the skull was thick enough to stop a broadhead. lady's and gentlemen don't try this at your home woods.

A.D.D. BOY 11-11-2005 08:02 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 

If you have to ask if that is a good shot than you need a lesson in ethical hunting.

If someone did shoot it in a hunting situation they need to have their hunting rights taken away for life.
Both of you need to be quiet. If thats the only shot you can take and you really need the meat i can gurantee both of you would take it. I shot my doe in the back legs running with my 12 gauge at about 80 yards. For the finishing off shot i walked up to her and shot her in the head with my 12 gauge. So because of that i should of had my hunting rights taken away for life?

WalMart 11-12-2005 12:59 AM

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That's ethical of you to be so forthcoming. But I think most hunters won't take a shot at a running deer (At 80 yards no less)....no matter how badly they need meat. It's not like you're in a life and death situation.....there's meat in the grocery stores. Just my $0.02.

HandB274234 11-12-2005 09:56 AM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
I know a lot of you would take that shot. I def would take that shot if it was the only shot i had. And for some people the meat they get during hunting season is the ONLY mean they can afford. And we both know that if it was a world record deer and that was the only shot you had you too would take the shot. So its not unethical their is NO waste of meat and im sure the animal did not suffer at all. So before you go posting about Ethics his and ethics that i know all of us would and have broken the rules of beinh an ethical hunter. If you say no then your just flat out lying. Seems like a lot of people on this post like to type what they want other to hear. Well im telling you right now i would shot a deer in the head and gun, bow whatever if it was the only shot i had!

nutz4bucks 11-12-2005 10:00 AM

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ORIGINAL: RTA47

Well you did not mess up any meat!
Thats for sure.

Sylvan 11-12-2005 11:39 AM

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Was this a bad shot? Assuming it was shot hunting from a treestand, of course it was a bad choice to shoot while it was approaching. You should have waited until it passed and/or turned to give you a better angle to the vitals. I'm surprised the arrow penetrated the head. I wonder if it would have had the deer been an adult. In that it is just a fawn maybe the skull isn't so dense.

MOTOWNHONKEY 11-12-2005 11:43 AM

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You do that tough guy. This is a bow hunters forum made up of hundreds of ethical men who would never take that shot. I'm sure there is a Jackass forum somewhere on the web you and A D D Boy could make yourselve's at home on. If you need the meat that bad try getting a damn job.

HandB274234 11-12-2005 01:40 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
Ok Mohonk or whatever you call yourself. I bet this place is made up of ALL ethical hunters. YEAH OKAY! Everyone on here is just afraid to post what they REALLY would doin these situations. And YEAH ill take whatever shot i want to whenever i want to, so worry about yourself and dont speak for others. You probaly couldnt hit that shot anyway if you tried with a gun or bow, Rookie hunter.

MOTOWNHONKEY 11-12-2005 02:25 PM

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Just keep posting mouth, you will learn what other hunters think about your non hunting skills.

HandB274234 11-12-2005 04:13 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
I dont care what other people think about me or my skills.

davidmil 11-12-2005 05:53 PM

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I'm surprised this one hasn't been locked yet. Must be a moderator holiday.[8D] I just know they've seen it, but no one wants to pull the trigger. They're waiting until it becomes a full fledged personnal attack.[8D]

MOTOWNHONKEY 11-12-2005 06:46 PM

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It's getting close let me tell ya. This idiot isclaiming to be an outfitter. Please

HandB274234 11-13-2005 10:03 AM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 

ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY

It's getting close let me tell ya. This idiot isclaiming to be an outfitter. Please
Oh please, im not even going to justify myself to you. You seem like you have too much to prove on this forum.

txjourneyman 11-13-2005 10:40 AM

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I have a hard time believing anyone on this forum needs the meat badly enough to take that shot. If a person can afford a computer, internet access, and bow hunting, I think they can afford a pork chop at Wal-mart. Say what you will, and I am a rookie bowhunter, but that is not a shot i would EVER take. I have hunted for years with a rifle or muzzleloader and again it's not a shot I would take. There is way to much of a chance that the projectile may deflect off the skull. If an animal is coming straight at me, it will have to turn or pass me at some point. I will wait for the shot that is offered at that point. Although I am out to kill, I have enough respect for my prey to not take low percentage shots. I think those that do are more interested in filling an ego than a tag.

Noobie 11-13-2005 10:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: txrookie

I have a hard time believing anyone on this forum needs the meat badly enough to take that shot. If a person can afford a computer, internet access, and bow hunting, I think they can afford a pork chop at Wal-mart.
My thoughts exactaly.

I'm a rookie myself, but I would never take that shot.

MOTOWNHONKEY 11-13-2005 11:45 AM

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Mine too. That's a jackass shot for sure.

northern deer hunter 11-13-2005 03:27 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
wellyou can't argue about the deer being dead andno meat being wasted but what wereyou aiming for?

A the P 11-13-2005 03:32 PM

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I'd do it with a rifle.

beaverpatrol 11-13-2005 03:40 PM

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There is no way that that is a real pic.....there is no blood on the arrow at all....i just cant see it being real....where were they hunting in the first place for the deer to end up dead on the cement?

muzzyman88 11-13-2005 04:14 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
Boy, this post is gettin excitin:D

I too don't think the photo is real. On that note, anyone who takes this type of shot in a hunting situation isn't someone I'd like to associate myself with. Showing that much disregard and lack of respect for an animal is wrong. No wonder the animal rights people are constantly knocking on our door.

HandB274234 11-13-2005 04:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: A the P

I'd do it with a rifle.
So would I!

superflyhunter 11-13-2005 04:37 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
How is that unethical? Its just as much a kill as a double lung...

superflyhunter 11-13-2005 04:59 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
You really need to take a step back and chill. People hunt diffrently, just because its not just like you doesn't mean its wrong. I believe hitler did quite a similar thing as you. Trying to banthings because he didn't agree.You don't have to agree with any of it, but your idea of banning it is bull. This is america, with freadoms especially of speach. You probably think anti-hunters are idiots, and i'm sure there are alot of hunters on here that probably think your "all american give the deer the best fighting chance possible and only do whats absolutley ethical" is just as stupid. And that hunting style isn't putting meat on the table. And i don't believe handb274234 is all of too wrong nor have i ever seen him say he was an outfitter. To question his skills w/o even knowing him shows how stupid people really are. And to make accusations against him is just as stupid. Can't we all be friends??


moosehunter21 11-13-2005 06:27 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
I would not take that shot with a bow but maybe a rilfe and that is only MAYBE!

Kybuckhunter 11-13-2005 08:23 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
For one it's illegal to kill a deer with a field point. It is not a good shot to take with a bow period. The one guy said if it's the only shot he had he would take it. If you only had a shot at the foot or the rear end would you take it? Just because you can hit the deer somewhere on it's body doesn't mean you should. Why try to prove your some super stud hunter and take a head shot. So much can go wrong with a shot like that. A guy I know wanted to kill a deer with a head shot with his bow. I tried to talk him out of it but he did it anyway. A small yearling came in and he shot it and he hit it across the bridge of the nose. He said the nose just dropped down and the deer started running around in a circle bawling and licking its nose. He was lucky he was able to get a second shot into the lungs and put it down. He said he felt bad watching the deer after the hit and he would never try that again.

If you can't respect an animal more than that then your hunting for the wrong reasons.If you said this is a good shot then you should ask yourself some questions. Does the fact that the deer died justify taking that shot with a bow? Do you care this is a low percentage shot? The fact is if you take this shot you just don't care and you shouldn't be hunting until you learn what your doing.

HandB274234 11-13-2005 09:25 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
The foot and rear end are not kill shots unless you shoot it directly in the rectum, the head is.

Kybuckhunter 11-13-2005 09:57 PM

RE: Was this a bad shot?
 
The foot may not be a killing shot but the rear end is. There are large arteries that run down the back leg. If you hit these they will die very fast. Is it the right thing to do? NO...because it's a small target and more things can go wrong. I can shoot an arrow into the eyes blinding a deer then go over and club it to death and no meat will be lost. Is it right to do? Why don't 3D targets have a 10 ring on the head? Why would anyone even argue a head shot is a good shot(most of all with a field tip as in the photo)with a bow is beyond comprehension. Either you just like to start crap or your some macho he-man with something to prove or you have NO respect for the animal. The guys who would do this are the same guys who are slob hunters who don't care about game laws or the animal and would do anything to bring home their deer.

BOWFANATIC 11-14-2005 01:25 AM

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