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I'm suprised this thread wasn't deleted after the first post. It's an unethical bowshot (even if it's a staged shot, that arrows 40+" long) and has turned into a flame war. Can we get a lock and delete please?
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this thread really shows what kind of people are running around out there. Rather sad, and makes me sick.
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I also think that is a terrible shot to take, and I personally wouldn't take it a doe or buck of ANY size. But what troubled me more than the pic, was the guy bragging about shooting 80yds at a running deer. Would be pretty hard to be SURE of where your slug was going to stop. People die when others get careless with guns. Unless the deer was running along the base of a highwall, I wouldn't shoot 80yds at a runner even if it was a world record buck...or maybe ESPECIALLY if it was. One of my kids (12), wants to deer hunt during shotgun season this year...stories like that are what terrify me.
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ORIGINAL: HandB274234 I give NY'ers a bad name huh...ahahahahahahha who are you to say anything about NY and what do you know about me and my family. I give NY'ers a bad name because i would shoot a deer in the head WOW! Good one man. Shoot for the ears that had to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard like i said before head shot is a kill shot, ears yeah i dont think your going to get much of a kill with that hahaha. Good try though, i give hunters a bad name also huh? OKAY i realy care what you think about me. Criminal justice classes yeah whats this a crime scene investigation forum. Oh and once again i could care less what all of you think. I hope this threat gets deleted cause everyone is so full of sh*&^ all about Ethics this and ethics that, lets just suck up to our peers a little bit more. How about you post what you actually feel for once. HAVE A GREAT DAY FELLA'S enjoy the pic. ahhahah |
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ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65 Anyway, I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that a field point was used in the picture since the tip of the arrow looks to be imbedded in the deer.:eek: But, this pic is a fake anyway so it makes little difference to debate over whether it is a filed point or not. Take a look at the arrow - see any brain matter or muscle tissue or skull fragments? When's the last time you shot an arrow that was nearly 4' long? :eek: |
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ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65 IMO some people here need to go back to the Bow Hunter Education Courses and pay attention. |
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the pic of that poor dog is more disturbing than anything else on this thread. The creep that shot that pooch deserves the same fate. I have absolutely no tolerance for people that abuse pets.
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They teach you a skull shot is a clean killing shot with a bow where you're from? Most of the information here is pretty good. http://www.nbef.org/deer_java.html |
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This is a hunting fourm for discussion, everyone needs to lighten up and not personally attack anyone, includingHandB274234... I've been hunting with him, unlike anyone else in here. So none of you should even bad mouth him before really knowing anything about him. He is probably more deticated to the sport then 99% of the people in here. He's taken more then a few deer legally and "Ethically" and has a great knowlege on the sport. I'm not going to go on and on about he and I because its a waste of time to all of you closed minded hunters that seem to think you are better then someone because you only take a quartering away shot at 25 yards. We all have a right to be in the woods just respect that.
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We all have a right to be in the woods just respect that. |
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ORIGINAL: BobCo19-65 They teach you a skull shot is a clean killing shot with a bow where you're from? Most of the information here is pretty good. http://www.nbef.org/deer_java.html That's a good site you gave and has some good info. Here's a bit of advice from that site. Where to Aim - Broadside Bow: Broadside game represents the best bow shot because it requires the least amount of penetration to reach the vital organs, which is especially important in large big game animals. The broadside shot is also the best single angle for accomplishing a double-lung hit, resulting in the collapse of both lungs. Find the best aiming point on a deer or other hooved big game by picking a spot halfway up the side of the animal and about a hand's width behind the hollow of the shoulder. Or, in your mind's eye, eliminate the head, neck and tail. Then, divide the animal equally both vertically and horizontally. Hold on the spot where these imaginary lines cross, then aim about six inches forward. This is called the "cross hairs" method of picking a spot. Both methods will help you put an arrow in the center of the vital area by enabling you to pick a spot rather than shooting at the whole animal. Remember, an arrow will penetrate the ribs, but be careful to avoid the shoulder bone. Wait until the near leg is forward and concentrate on a spot behind the shoulder. Avoid head and neck shots when bowhunting. The brain and spine are small targets protected by heavy bone. The only artery of any size in the neck is the carotid artery (which in a deer is only the size of your bowstring). Wait for the chest shot behind the shoulder! |
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No its not, but whats the question?
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No its not, but whats the question? Refer to the original Post and topic Heading. |
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Ah. My apologies. I agree |
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ORIGINAL: superflyhunter And if a dog is stupid enough to look at an arrow comming at his head, fetch would be a lot of fun...Let darwin weed out stupid animals. No biggie. |
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Look alot of times things are jokes, and shoud be taken that way. A fake picture like these sholdn't be a reason for hunters to be mad at eachother... And i'm not sayin all of too many hunters could dodge an arrow at 20 yards but i sure as heck would stick arround as soon as i saw soomeone drawing back.... There enlies the diffrence.
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It's organizations like PETA that "may" cruise this site and have another reason to
ban hunting period. Even if it is a doctered photo. IMO if anyone who thinks that they can kill a deer with a headshot then so be it. Good for them. Me....not gonna do it. |
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One question for the people who would shoot a deer in the head with a bow. Does anyone here seriously need the meat so bad that they would risk a shot like that? I honestly don't think too many people here do. I know I don't and would much rather enjoy the day and let it walk then shoot a deer in the head with a bow. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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Ya know guys sometimes I look at how many posts a person makes and I think when some one posts over 100 times in a week, well they must be lonely or just really need some attention. they seem to be begging for some one to notice them. There are a couple of names I'm going to block. I'm done with this thread.
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Right you are Charlie.We wached a doe fawn for two weeks of gun season. She had an arrow stuck in her forehead.My Brother in law shot her on the last day of the season.I shot a nice 9pt a few years ago that had been shot in the lower jaw.Head shots are not always fatal,at least not right away.The 9pt was a dead deer walking.
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txrookie,Less than a week.:D
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This can be debated until we turn blue but the fact is your not going to change someones mind with an argument. The decisions we make when we hunt or anything else is from what we have been taught and have learned as we go through life. Some people never learn whats right and wrong and don't care to learn. We will always have people on both sides of every issue and they have a right to their opinion no matter how STUPID andHARD HEADEDthey are. Good day.
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Justin took care of one of the jackasses. I got to give it to him for that. I'm sure his buddies won't be far behind him.
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ORIGINAL: Rich Baker I have done it!!! Am I a moron I don't think so. I was 13 and it was the second deer I shot at. I never found it. A nice 8 point buck to. My Dad kicked my butt and wouldn't let me bow hunt for the rest of the season. and he made me look for that deer every day he went hunting. FYI I never took a shot like that again and after 40 + kills under my belt from deer to moose thats the only animal I ever lost. Im in my 40's now and I would never even think about a shot like that. |
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Having a Dad to TEACH you the right things is such a blessing, isn't it? I'd be in jail or dead if it wasn't for my father. My grandfather was my teacher in hunting/fishing though...but it's just the fact that if you are taught properly when young, you grow into a responsible outdoorsman...if you aren't taught, chances are you will end up a little twisted in your viewpoints/actions.
P.S.: I have to say, that a LOT of that "teaching" that I had when young, seemed like it SUCKED at the time. :D |
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I think if this was a true shot? First of all you should have a broadhead, and 2nd it was prob just a miss placed shot that happened to hit it in the head. Ive shot one deer dead in the spine in all my bow kills, and i wasn't aiming for the spine. On a personal note, i think i would rather be shot in the head than in the liver!?!?
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You are searching for opinions evidently by your question if it was a
bad shot. But by the responses I have read that you have posted you actually were not looking for honest opinions from your fellow hunters. You were fishing for compliments because "you" thought this was an awesome shot. If this was not a doctored photo then thank goodness the deer is down. Too many things can go wrong with aiming for a head shot and in my opinion you got lucky this time. Just a little left or right, up or down, and you would have an injured animal. Do the right thing next time and take them where you know the best shot is. If I was in need of the meat to feed my family, I would have to take a higher percentage shot to ensure the harvest. So my opinion of the shot would be, yes you made a good shot..........but.......you made a poor choice in "shot selection." |
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Well,fer starters that looks like a doe,or it could have little buttons up on top!secondly,i just wanna say,if i saw a high racked buck coming torwards me,i'd aim right between the antlers!
 that is if i was in a stand.because,it seems to me that a head shot is a better shot to make than shoooting at the spine! |
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Why do you guys fall into this kind of crap? That post wasn't even worthy of a response! Let's act like adults, OK?
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Bump...lol
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Well it did get 109 responces.........so..........yea..........I guess it was worth a responce!!:eek:
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This just makes me sick, theres no need to be shooting a deer in the head with a bow.
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Everyone in here needs to grow up......dont you see, that little D bag wanted to get a rise out of all of you...haha and it worked!!!!!
stupid post and stupid replies....pointless |
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I'm just curious but if you were in a tree stand about 20' up in an oak and a nice buck with 12 long tines was walking strait towards you and stoped 30 yards out were would you aim?
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Id let him walk. Or wait till he presents a good shoot. I have never shot a deer in the head with a bow and never will, you know why??? Its plain out STUPID!!!!
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If he comes in like you said and stops, he gets to walk. Pretty simple and it doesn't matter how big or small the deer is.
I had a heavy 9 pointstanding broadside at 30 yards last week but the shot wasn't 100% clear due to a little brush in the way. Sure, I could have stuck an arrow in him, but I wasn't positive I could put it exactly where itneeded to be, so I let him walk. It was dissapointing, but there was no way I was gonna take a chance at wounding that deer by taking an iffy shot. Believe it or not, there is more to being a hunter than keeping track of a body count or worse turning deer into walking pin cushions. You do not have to kill a deer to have a good time. |
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