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Old 01-10-2002, 04:00 PM
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several of you hit on the key issue in Gary Alts plan. That bigger bucks are a by product of a healthy herd with a 1/1 buck doe ratio. the basic principle he is utilizing are proven elsewhere. The tough part of his job is applying those proven principles in a state with a much different "herd" of hunters than most. That is why he has come up with some unprecedented ideas. They may not all work, and he has said so, but they are based on science and that's exactly what we need. He won't make things better here overnight but things will be better eventually. The "good old days" of Pa deer hunting are just ahead of us!
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Old 01-12-2002, 07:01 AM
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i think cardeer has hit it on the head ,but i also think that when the 40 to50 year old crowed starts to stop hunting, thats when the(pgc)is going to change.the counties will become managment zones.i hunt in pike county and the pgc has been clear cutting there.before they stared clear cutting you had access to alot of areas ,now after the clear cutting pga has gated every thing and are making you walk in to areas.i dont mind waiking but have you ever had to drag a deer out of the woods (1 to 2 miles).and thats no lie.it not a fun thing.
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Old 01-12-2002, 03:03 PM
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We went with a trophy program in Ky and now we have more healthy deer of all sizes than ever before.We don't have antler restrictions IMO (that is not fare to all) we take more does and are only allowed 1 buck per year,a polished antler is all that is needed to be a buck.Kill a doe with a 10 point rack and in full velvet it is a doe tag.A button buck that is polished is a buck.We are up to as many does a year as I want to buy tags for in the zone that I hunt.In the other zones it is only 1 buck and 1 doe or 2 doe .You then can buy 2 extra archery doe tags.

The concern of out of state hunters is genuine and it is a small problem in Ky,our trophy bucks taken are 2nd only to Illinois per acre and most don't even realize it.The managers definately need to be cocerned about the locals more than the out of state money.The only money our wildlife management get is from the sale of tags ,licenses and donations.Our managers are doing a great job and other states can learn from them.


I know this has nothing to do with your state but wanted to give an idea what proper deer management can do for the Pa. hunter on the local level.I don't know if you have local bowhunting organizations but ours is very helpfull to the managers in setting up restrictions.

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Old 01-12-2002, 05:36 PM
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Well, tomorrow is the day....let the fun begin....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

(1st day of the Game Commission meetin on proposals for next season...for those who didn't know)
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Old 01-12-2002, 07:15 PM
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I with you Frank. Last year the rhetoric was horrible after they met to set up the proposals for voting in April. This topic is about to get even hotter in the days to come.
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Old 01-12-2002, 08:45 PM
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It seems to me that when some people who ACTUALLY go to see the man speak comes out supporting him or at least giveing him more of a chance than before. I bet most people who go against him probable didn't ever go see him speak in person. Not saying everyone but I wouldn't be suprised if atleast 60 to 70% never saw him and just say they did.

Whackmaster glad to see you got to see him and came out with a better understanding of the REAL situation.

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Old 01-13-2002, 04:54 AM
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I too was at the meeting. I find some of his idea's very sound. I can see it where I hunt. I feel the extra doe week in mid October will really mess up archery season, but I will be out there. I Pa we have become creatures of habbit with our hunting. Going to Grandpa's camp... same tree stand. Lets give it a chance.
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Old 01-13-2002, 06:54 AM
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I will be going to see him...again...at the Allentown Sports Show during the first week in March.

I hope I have the opportunity to ask him some questions this time...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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