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#3
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Posts: 15,452
RE: Pa. whitetail management
Your right he is a good speaker and politician,thats about all.He has a few good ideas I could support, but most of his talk he will never be able to back up. And I wish he would leave the elite hunting club he hunts deer at and join the rank and file busting are butts to find a deer.I dont have have much respect for someone who doesnt practice what he wants us to practice.A leader is suppose to do exactly that lead and we are suppose to follow,try following him to his hunting spot and see how far you get before your arrested.Im a show up or shut up person, so show us Mr Alt and put your smooth politcal schmooze to the side.I want to see smaller management units like you said,a better deer count and stop blowing are money on timber and insurance concerns and put the public land in to a agriculture program so we can continue to have a LARGE healthy herd.Fooey on the trophy bucks,unless you all want to spend 3 grand to shoot one,like all the other big buck states the outfitters took over. You better wake up and take note of the amount of pay to hunt places there are already in Pa. Living and hunting in some of the midwestern big buck states I can guarantee you the outfitters are licking there chops just waiting to move in if big bucks start popping up everywhere in Pa. You think its hard to find a place to hunt know,Just wait,you better start talking to other hunters from Ill.,Iowa,Kansas, Texas and see what happened to there state. You all need to get out of your caccoon and look around.
#4
RE: Pa. whitetail management
Hmmm, I guess Cardeer feels strongly about this issue...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
I am neither an "Altaholic" nor am I totally against what the man is trying to do.
I like the idea of antler restrictions for next year but I strongly disagree with some of his other suggestions.
Whackmaster....if you really wanted to get a whole lot of opinions on this thread then you should have posted it over on the Northeast forum......hmmm, but then again, maybe that is why you posted it here...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
I am neither an "Altaholic" nor am I totally against what the man is trying to do.
I like the idea of antler restrictions for next year but I strongly disagree with some of his other suggestions.
Whackmaster....if you really wanted to get a whole lot of opinions on this thread then you should have posted it over on the Northeast forum......hmmm, but then again, maybe that is why you posted it here...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
#5
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 1,086
RE: Pa. whitetail management
I was there last night too whackmaster. I was never in favor of most of the things he is proposing but I do feel a lot better towards them now. I think his ideas are genuinely sincere and might work if given the chance. Some ideas I think still are just too difficult to manage with the numbers/mentality of people in this state. Anyone who stays with the job that he is doing despite all the flack he catches must really be dedicate, or glutton for punishment.
#6
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: PA
Posts: 4
RE: Pa. whitetail management
I have to agree with cardeer, Alt is a good speaker and politician. I've lived in NE PA all my life and have been hunting here for more than 40 years. To me the PA Game Commission is just another political organization to muster up votes for politicians.
Proof! Just look at the recent firing of commissioner Vheneski buy Gov. Ridge because he stooded up for the hunters in my area and fought against a political move to ban a target range on game lands. He was fired and the politicians won.
Here is another example that I just read this morning. Taken from the PA GC NEWS (2-10-02):
DR. ALT ANNOUNCES PUBLIC MEETINGS TO DISCUSS DEER MANAGEMENT : .....Kingston, Luzerne County: Thursday, Jan. 17, 7 p.m., Wyoming Valley West Middle School, Chester Street. The event is being hosted by Rep. Phyllis Mundy, and co-hosted by Reps. Kevin Blaum, Todd Eachus, Tom Tigue and John Yudichak.... Look who is hosting it!!!!!!! See any Sportsmen listed???? And by the way, the head of the PAGC hates bow hunters. Just ask the PA UNITED BOWHUNTERS organization.
Yes, we do need better management of the deer herd but by whom - POLITICANS? I think not.
Proof! Just look at the recent firing of commissioner Vheneski buy Gov. Ridge because he stooded up for the hunters in my area and fought against a political move to ban a target range on game lands. He was fired and the politicians won.
Here is another example that I just read this morning. Taken from the PA GC NEWS (2-10-02):
DR. ALT ANNOUNCES PUBLIC MEETINGS TO DISCUSS DEER MANAGEMENT : .....Kingston, Luzerne County: Thursday, Jan. 17, 7 p.m., Wyoming Valley West Middle School, Chester Street. The event is being hosted by Rep. Phyllis Mundy, and co-hosted by Reps. Kevin Blaum, Todd Eachus, Tom Tigue and John Yudichak.... Look who is hosting it!!!!!!! See any Sportsmen listed???? And by the way, the head of the PAGC hates bow hunters. Just ask the PA UNITED BOWHUNTERS organization.
Yes, we do need better management of the deer herd but by whom - POLITICANS? I think not.
#7
RE: Pa. whitetail management
Dr. Gary Alt is a greedy man. For those who don't believe it, just listen to this. He wants to give the first week of archery season to rifle hunters for free. Archery hunters pay for that time and he is giving it to rifle hunters because he doesn't archery hunt. He wants our state to become a BIG buck state because of money. He realizes that Pennsylvania could GROW TONS OF HUGE BUCKS, and what does that mean? People will be rushing in from EVERYWHERE to get a liscence. In other words, MORE MONEY! You people can't wait to see how good Alts plans are, WELL I Really dont want to see how bad the hunting in this state becomes. Why are people so stuck on antler size. Sure, I like shooting large racked bucks but it doesn't matter to me if it is big or small. I still get the same rush. I guess it is just a way for someone to express their man hood because they are lacking the expression in other places if you know what I mean.
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)
Good Luck This Season: Buck Magnet
P.S. Only Chuck Adams can sit at home and see deer so get into the woods. =;^)
#8
RE: Pa. whitetail management
The general firearms doe only hunt that was being proposed for the first week of Oct. has been taken off the table. I personally would like to shoot a nice racked deer, not simply for antler size but for the wisdom that allowed the deer to hide from hunters long enough to get that size.
Nothing will be set in stone until the April meeting when they vote, then any changes are for this year. Next year will bring all new proposals! Enjoy, Ami
Nothing will be set in stone until the April meeting when they vote, then any changes are for this year. Next year will bring all new proposals! Enjoy, Ami