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Old 09-15-2005 | 03:43 PM
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I agree 100% with "It's a stupid thread." Doesn't anyone know right from wrong or are there that many cheaters who can't live with out some other cheater giving them the "OK"?

You're gonna do what yer gonna do. Just be man enough to just do it and for God's sake just shut up about it.

On the other comment yer nuts if you think posting a sign on the property line is going to give you control over an inch on my side of the property line. I'll shoot one in the head before it's half way over the fence if I want to and if the law says I can go where I need to to get it, I will.

If it says I can't and you won't let me, well what goes around comes around and I'll make sure it does if I have to, neighbor.
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Old 09-15-2005 | 03:45 PM
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At 3000.00 an acer it isn't going to get any cheaper.Land is a great investment.You get to hunt & fish it , camp on it anything you want to do.As time passes and land values go up your investment will make great returns.
And did I forget to say you could hunt there too..
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Old 09-15-2005 | 03:52 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, you have no legal or ethical "right" to enterposted privateproperty without the permission of the owner. Everything I've heard here that says go ahead against the will of the property owner is just rationalizing. It doesn't matter if its a trophy animal or the meat will be wasted or the landowner is an ******* orwhatever. These are just excuses so you can feel better about doingthe wrong thing.Your extreme desire to get the deer simply doesn't matter here. If you enter without the permission of the owner you break the law and also violate hunting ethics.
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Old 09-15-2005 | 04:00 PM
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Where I'm from you might as well add a zero to that figure. And I highly doubt you will find a piece large enough to hunt on any way. If you do somoene already owns it and won't sell it unless it's to someone that is going to devolope it, or they are leasing it out to make money on it.

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Old 09-15-2005 | 04:11 PM
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Well Sylvan here in Illinois the hunter has the right to cross that boundary to retrieve a deer he shot on his own land.It is more unethical to let a deer go to wste then to just be a flat out A hole about it.being that you are hunters I would think you understand more then abyhing else.We are supposed to be a brotherhood and help each other out.But I see there are still guys who only think about themselves instead of what is morally right.i only have 12 acres of my own but I am allowed to hunt about a 1000 acres of privately owned land.in which half of that I have permission to take others with me.I gladly take people especially from out of state with me for the simple fact that it is the ROGHT thing to do.I have neighbors who charge out of staters 1000 a piece to hunt there land.Just to try to keep them off of it.They dont hunt.It is called purre greed.And in this case I dont know what it sounds more like by keeping someone off of your land and letting a deer rot.Is it jealousy that they scared on a dear or are you really that one sided and dont give a crap about others who may be a decent person.This gets me going to no end.I do not understand how people can be so ignorent to the fact that recovering of a mortally wounded animal is just as important as shooting one.
As for the hunting close to property lines.Well around here it is tree lines that usually grow at property lines.So the deer are going to use it to travel.I would set up on a property line in a heart beat.I wont shoot one over the fence but as soon as it steps on my side of the fence I will put a hole in it.If it goes back by law I have every right to rtetrieve it.
My neighbor across from me wont let me hunt there anymore.Snce her husband died I lost my permission to hunt.Was my favorite place.I never shot a dear that wasnt recovered there.I never left a mess or disturbed anyting.She just doesnt like me.Her husband and I were very good friends.he would spend more time with me then with her near the end.He told me I always had and will have permission to hunt there.Well the first day after he died she came to my house and said no.I will not go on her land no matter what unless it is to retrieve a deer.I aiways tell her I am going .And if she said no I would call the game warden.I would get my deer.I hunt on the first tree off of her property and regularly shoot the deer as soon as they come off of her.As long as I am not on her land shooting them I am ok.
You all need to remember to be kind to each other you might need the favor back some day.
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Old 09-15-2005 | 05:17 PM
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Well Sylvan here in Illinois the hunter has the right to cross that boundary to retrieve a deer he shot on his own land.
Well Illimois Bowhuntin here in New York the hunter does not have the right to cross the boundary to retrieve a deer he shot on his own land. In fact when you get your license the pamphlet they give you with it every year specifically tells you that a hunting license gives you "no special access to private land". It is unquestionably illegal here to enter private property without the permission of the landowner and that fact that you shot a deer and it ran onto that private property doesn't change anything. In fact here it doesn't even matter if the land is posted or not, you still have no right to be on it.
It is more unethical to let a deer go to wste then to just be a flat out A hole about it.
Actually, I agree. If I shoot a deer on land I have permission to hunt and it goes on to land I don't I believe the ethical thing for me to do is to ask permission of the land owner to retrieve it. If he won't let me then I agree he is an ******* and he is ethically wrong to let the meat go to waste but it was his decision not mine. As the old saying goes, 2 wrongs don't make a right so if I go on his land anyway, I'm ethically wrong as well for knowingly trespassing and breaking the law. Here in NY if I'm caught doing this, the deer will be taken away from me and I could loose my hunting license.
BTW, I think laws here regarding this matter are good ones!
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Old 09-15-2005 | 05:50 PM
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LOL you said it right 2 wrongss dont mke a right.This is on those lines of hunting at bait.Some states allow it some dont.This falls under the same catagory.One may see it as one way if ther estats allows it yet another may see it as wrong.Nop reall way.it is just a matter of ethics.You have to pick which one is thr lesser of the 2.Letting meet go bad or pissing off the owner and gettin your deer.
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Old 09-15-2005 | 06:20 PM
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I can walk the boundries of my150 acers and point out five stands that are within fourty yards of my land.
bawanajim,
So no one should hunt within 40 acres of your "huge" 150 acre plot of land. Does that mean you shouldn't hunt within 40 acres of anyone elses smaller piece of land. If that's the case, if you have a square piece of land looks like you better buy 10 more acres so you can have ONE stand location dead center of your property. Need that 40 acre bumper! Good luck hunting!

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Old 09-15-2005 | 06:37 PM
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This topic has me a bit stirred up.If I shoot an animal on property that is mine or that I have permission to hunt on and it expires on someone elses property I will retrieve it.This isn't europe where the landowner owns the game.Any landowner with any modicum of sense would never have a problem with that.
It is all about conduct if someone is a known poacher or has trepassed previously on you property than they don't deserve that courtesy.
To think otherwise is assinine,anyone with any amount of decency would help the other hunter transport the animal to where ever they were going.If I knew that the landowner was an idiot,I would plan accordingly,I would retrieve the animal and they would never have known I was there.
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Old 09-15-2005 | 06:37 PM
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honestly even if it may not be legal most likely i'll go get my deer. i havepermission to be on the areas around where i hunt in ky except for one small area and i could get in and out without anyone knowing unless of course they were standing right there. but i guess its a personal choice.
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