I'm far from bent out of shape. Actually I find this comical. Don't agree with one thing I say....no skin of my n*ts.

You basically said that hunting here is very easy and all one needed was patience to be sucessful. I have been giving you ways to make this place as equally tough and rewarding as your other piece of land by stepping your standards up and shooting something that's actually hard to kill when one has good deer numbers like you've been saying. But you can't or don't want to see that.

In that 2nd quote, you contridicted yourself right there. You find shooting something off of your other piece of land more rewarding than shooting something off unpressured farm land deer. Hey...that's great and I can understand that, but then I'm not sure why you then say that your not up for a challenge and don't want to make hunting harder for yourself when you hunting this new land by stepping up your goals and actually attemping to shoot somethinga lot tougher tokill. Old doe....3 /2-4 1/2 and older bucks.

But maybe I still just don't get it. ha, ha

Don't take things so seriously man.........it's just an online discussion.


I see it perfectly clear.........I just have no interest in it as I have told you 10 times already. I have no problem killing deer under the circumstances on the farm.......no problem at all..........however, when I think back and remember each seasons success and failure I will always look more fondly upon the deer I had to work much harder or have even more luck to get..........it's just natural. I am not going to kid myself into believing that killing a deer on this farm is as hard as killing one in some other places I hunt because it simply is not. I have no problem with it..........and I fully admit it is easier to kill a deer there.........what is wrong with that?


You're right...........you still don't get it. I don't care if the hunting is harder........I don't want the hunting to be harder.........I don't long for more of a challenge. I have plenty of that in all the places I hunt put together........some are REALLY tough and some are OK.........and the farm is easier IMO. What is so wrong with that?? I have no problem killing a deer in ANY of those settings and will do so without hesitation........I am just realistic about the level of difficulty involved in each setting.

Do you honestly expect me to believe that you consider sitting over a food plot full of 50 deer and just picking the one you want to drop as hard as say hitting heavy pressured public land??

C'mon man...............it doesn't take any thinking at all to realize that numbers play a huge roll in your chance for success. Would you rather hunt on a private farm with 40 deer on it or 1,000 acre's of public land with 10 deer on it?? Obviously you will have a better chance in the smaller densely populated spot.

Do you really consider every deer you ever killed to be of equal ranking on a difficulty spectrum??............you never had someone tell you to sit in a certain stand and show you where the deer come in..........and sure enough an hour later here they come!!

Just because something is easier doesn't make it bad or wrong. Some deer I killed were as easy as pie.........some I had to work my freakin' tail off and have luck go my way just to see something..........no big deal. It's just the way it is.

Well I sure didn't read all the replies..and someone may have said this already. But you could just as easily go out this year to the "EASY" place and something has changed all of a sudden guess what..it got real hard!

Easy hunting can be the final touches on a post season, preseason, topo studying..and other scouting methods. Sometimes the hard hunt takes place prior to being in the woods with a weapon! I have found such a honey hole, and last year watched many deer and bucks waiting for thebuck I scouted and labeled him the "One"! I never connected. But he's there again this year to give me the occasional glimpse andto seehim coming in, only to slick me one more time. Perhaps one day I'll slip one through him and my 2 years of "Easy" hunting will be complete and I can move on to the next adventure.

Your true colors are showing loud and clear atlas [&o][:'(]

Just so all of you younger hunters know. Hunting today is way easier than it was back in the early 1960's. Reason is the deer numbers are far greater today than back then. I wonder how many would still be sitting out there after you haven't seen a deer for months. you guys that are just starting will probably see more deer in one season than I saw in 5 years of hunting back in the day..

Make no mistake about it these are the good old days. Right now. And yes it is easy.

And the easier it gets the better I like it...

Oh........I absolutely have no illusions that it will be that easy again this year..........it can't be. It does look like all the crops are the same and the apple trees are full so I will be surprised if the deer patterns are drastically different. You never know on farm land though........someone puts up a cow fence or gets a dog or an ATV and you could be screwed.

It is VERY possible that this slam dunk petting zoo could have changed in a bunch of ways........for all I know there could be 12 other guys that got permission to hunt this year..................you just never know.

Like I said...........it's a numbers game.

Yes there are certain places I have permissionto hunt where I could probably go out and shoot a young buck or doe any given night. There would be a 90% chance I'd get presented a shot.
I choose not to hunt that land. I take my sons out there(8 & 10) and sit in a ground blind to teach them about deer hunting and let them see a bunch of deer to get their excitement level about hunting going. If my brother (landowner) wants some venison or some does taken out, I'll go take one (and it won't take very long).
It would however be noticably "easier" to whack a deer from there rather than my main piece of land I hunt. I agree with buckeye and others that say there are older mature bucks around the woods where I see all the yearlings, but I don't want to concentrate my efforts on hunting/scouting that area for maybe A mature buck. I'd rather take my time and efforts on my main chunk of land (miles away) where I KNOW there are mature bucks (far more) roaming around. I'll see far less deer there and be presented far less shots, but I feel my chances for a bruiser are far better at my main piece rather than "the petting zoo".

I think all atlas is saying is some pieces of land are easier to harvest a deer than others which I'll agree with. That's pretty obvious I think.

I agree that some places are definitely easy to kill "a" deer. Buck or doe. I have a couple places like that. However I do enjoy hunting them, and will continue to. I just don't choose to kill"a" deer. I hold out for the deer I am looking for. Where I hunt, a mature buck is rare, and even at 4.5, 99% of the time won't gross 120". They just don't get that big here. BUT...I still hold out, that is the challenge I have given myself. I don't complain that it would be too easy to kill "a" deer. I actually enjoy hunting spots like that. Passing the deer up over the years has probably taught me more than anything about hunting. Plus, honestly it's nice to actually see deer on a regular basis. I feel for the guys that hunt for days, just to see a glimpse of one. I'm not sure how I would handle hunting places like that. Now don't get me wrong, I don't hunt a pet-a-pet like some guys I know, but we do have decent herds where I hunt.

But I guess to reply directly to your question, YES, I definitely agree....some places are MUCH easier to kill deer. In fact some places are much easier to kill bigger deer, strictly because there are many more around. I know guys that have numerous big deer mounted on their walls, and theyhardly know how to hunt. They climb the same stand every opening day of rifle, and shoot a big one at 150yds....simply because they are in an excellent spot, with alot of bigger deer around. However, in those spots...the deer they are shooting are usually not the best deer by any means. Just bigger younger deer. If they had to hold out for a mature deer, I doubt they'd have much luck.

I guess it comes down to personal preference. I enjoy the challenge of hunting for "the" deer, not "a" deer. I personally won't shoot a young buck, so I continue to hold out for a mature buck...regardless of where I am hunting. If I had property in IL, Iowa, etc...I would probably be holding out for a whopper each season (of course after I whacked a couple 130's to get it out of my system ). Around here, if I connect with a 110" buck, that is an excellent deer for my area, regardless of how I got it.