I agree , very good thread, I also would like to apologize for my past threads if they offended anybody, it was not my intentions, well some of them maybe, I will no longer continue to do this I will find other ways to do it such as deer hunting or shooting my bow. I feel that at times we, including myself, get emotional attached to the topic or what someone says about it and act unprofessionally. We are all in this together and even thou we may not agree on everything, I do think we care enough to stop it. You folks have helped me so much over the short period I've been here is awesome. I don't want to ruin it. Let's respect others idea's and perspective tastefully, WE ARE ALL WE HAVE IN THIS FIGHT AGAINST THE ANTI'S. Let's not give them anymore fire power to hurt us. GOD BLESS .lou-lou

Well said
Its about time someone actually noticed this.Lets all get along,we are all hunters no matter what method we use.

Class act!

I am much like you, I get fired up easy and sometimes my fingersget ahead ofmy brain.

I for one won't passby your posts even if we do get into it on occasions. Debates are healthy and I'd rather you speak your mind than not. I know sometimes they get out of hand but I just chalk it up to the "heat of the moment" and I seldom take anything on line personal.

I agree with muley69. This lame notion that if we huntersaren't unithinking mindclones of one anotherthat the anti's will win is pure nonsense. Take me down this slippery slope if you will. What am I going to do get so upset at some guy over a particular topic that I what.....join Greenpeace or Peta? Stop hunting? Vote to ban hunting? How exactly does this oft repeated but never explained process work? You guys chant this stuff so often that you got people on here scared to disagree about what brand of arrow to use for fear that a Goldtip vs Carbon Express rift will form in the hunting community and then.....wait for it......THE ANTIS WILL WIN?

News flash. The antis don't outnumber us.Far from it in fact.If they did hunting would be gone now. There is however a large nonhunting public out there that outnumber both us and the antis combined. They aren't in Greenpeace or Peta. They don't hate hunting. They just don't hunt and are for the most part fairly neutral on the subject. These people do however vote on issues that affect your ability to hunt and elect people that make decisions about your ability to hunt. The only hope that the antis have is to sway the opinion of this large group against us. The best defence we have against them doingjust thatis to police our own.

I see things in the outdoor world that even though legal I will not support. Things like canned hunts. Ear tagged trophy bucks being auctioned off on E-bayfor the highest bidderto come shoot it. High fence ranches were the land enclosed is so small and the game packed into it so great that it becomes kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. I know a website that has a forum entitled "Long Range Hunting". These guys sit on hill or mountain sides shooting across canyons at deer often over 1000 yards away. Sometimes they shoot 7 or 8 times before they hit the animal.Well if the distance is so great that you can easily miss 7 times then it's safe to say that this isalso apractice that could easily lead to amaimedanimal with a leg or nose blown off. I think the aforementioned activities and others like them offend that very general public that we need to be aware of and I for one want them to know that these folks don't represent me.

In this "Can't criticise it if it's legal" world that so many of you espouse let me ask the following. What about a guy who admits hehas beenattempting100 yards shots at deer with a bow? It's legal. There's no law that covers that. Should I offer my support to him as a fellow hunter? What about a guy with a 50 lb 26 inch draw untuned bow that announces his intention to use a 2 inch diameter expandable head for the coming season. Again, it's legal. He's not breaking a law. Should I tell him "Go for it Man" "3 inches ofpenetration is great for whitetail hunting, my brother hunter with whom I cannot disagree." What about a kid from a state where it's legal that speaks openly about his plans to use a 22 rifle to hunt deer? Should I say, "Awsome dude, I not only fully support you my hunting brother but for and added challenge waituntil he's facing away from you and go for a Texas heart shot"?

Or maybe, just maybe I should.....GASP! Dare to disagree and tell them that what they are doing is a bad idea. And the animals they are gonna end up wounding and losing are fuel for the anti's to burn us with.

Also if someone here had first hand knowledge or some level of expertise that allowed them to know that some product I was planning to purchase was in fact a worthless scam and a waste of my money,gee, I think I'd want to know that. Isn't the very purpose of such forums to share information and learn from other peoples experiences. That's how I feel about it. But then I guess I'm just weird that way.

great post!! we should all stick together even if we disagree..there are mature ways that differences can be addressed.

group huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug!!

Hey Todd, Excellent post!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree about the personal attacks but I gave up on the big tent theory along time ago.

All these posts make sense. Some of the more lively debate is just that...a debate. There are people who argue for the sake of arguing and that is all there is to it. I doubt that many people take it personally and most read the heated responses just for the entertainment value. When the day is done most of us are just plain sportsmen and sportswomen. Different techniques and game but we are all learning from each other.

your exactly right, this is the purpose of the forum but is not to attack other members. there is a big difference in saying IMHO it is not right to shoot a deer with a .22 and saying for example......Your aplain ole Dumb@$$ you ignorant retard. This is not helpful, just hatefull. we all hafta remember that body language which is how the brain interprets mood cannot be shown in our text(obvious huh but many people forget this) if your going to jokingly tease someone please let them know you are doing so within your post.

Great post Justin...i agree many of the threads get too out hand with agruments wich just adds more fuel for the fire for the anti's.