Well, I had the opportunity to play around with an 82nd at the bow shop yesterday for a bit.

IMO, the draw on this bow with the speed mods was pretty harshandthat was enough to turn me offifI was considering this for ahunting rig. I guess a draw cycle like that is to be expected though, consideringthis is a speed bow. I'd like to try one with smooth mods to see if I felt the same way about the draw. I expect not, andI will try again at a later date to see if they are more to my liking. Fit and finish looked fine and the string supressor was perfectly in line with the bow string. I know there was some concern about that expressed by one of the earlier posters in this thread. Also, it looked to me like that would be an easy thing to adjust if you did happen to have one that wasn't in line with the string.

Speaking of the string supressor, if you are a guy that still likes to use a kisser button, you may be out of luck if you buy this bow and want to continue on that way. The position of the supressor looks like it would easily interfere with a kisser button for some users.

I did not shoot the bow, so I can't say anything along those lines. My plan was to definately shoot it, but the draw cycle really turned me off so I bagged it. In fairness,if I had turned down the weight 5, 6, or8 pounds from what I'm used to shooting the draw would probably have felt more manageable, but that didn't sit well with me considering themain selling point of this bow is obviously the blazing speed.

I also played around with Hoyt's speed offering, the Katera. IMO the draw cycle was much smoother than the 82nd equipped with speed mods. While the Hoyt won't stack up numberswise with the speed mod equipped 82ndat the same draw weight, the Hoyt's draw cyclewas a lot smoother and would probably end up yielding similar numbers to the Bowtech equipped with smooth mods.

That's mynickels worthon the 82nd. Your mileage may vary.

What's a Testarossa Airborne?

This is the Testarossa finish:

Ths is going to ruffle some feathers but, what's wrong with you guys saying the draw cycle is harsh? This bow is no harsher to draw than the Guardian and certainly not worse than the General. What are you guys a bunch of pansies?[8D]

And, is there anything wrong with shooting a lower draw weight and still ahving blazing speeds? Kinda like having your cake and eating it too is how I see it.

Bubba,

If I can interpret what Greg is saying, he may be saying that the draw weight near the beginning of the draw cycle may be harder on your shoulder than a higher draw weight later in the draw cycle.

I.e., take 3 bows, a 50 with speed cams, a 60 with medium cams, and a 70 with old, round cams. Conceivably these three bows could all launch an arrow with the same KE. It is possible that the round cam bow would be easier on your shoulder than the 50 as pulling it would require strength primarily where your shoulder was the strongest.

Mike, I tend to agree with you. If the draw is harsh, it seems to me that one is overbowed and should consider a lesser poundage bow. I've never had an issue with "harsh" draw cycles but I used to shoot all the Hoyt speed bows so I'm used to that. The only thing I can think is someone coming from the ease of say a Mathews but if one understands the eccentrics understands why their speeds cannot compare. There is a slight trade off when it comes to this.

With these "harsh" draw cycles, one could lower the poundage and still get impressive speeds over a "smooth" draw cycle, like you said, win win.

Still can't find one in South Carolina to shoot. I think the 82nd will be my new bow for 08, just need to shoot it.

It must have all just been in my mind then even though the Hoyt and the 82nd were at the same draw weight yet the draw cycle felt completely different. One was comfortable. One was not. BTW, both bows were at the same weight of the bow I currently shoot quite comfortably, so I'm most certainly not over bowed...

People perceive things differently, so what is right for you guys may not be right for me. It's not one size fits all.

the air born101 has a very tight draw"like pulling a cart up a hill,then once over...it is just air",nice grippy paint pattern,like rubber!!!sweet!!!

Ok, I got the call today. The modules are here and the Airborne is set up for me to shoot. I wont be able to try it before friday but I will be there when he turns the key to open the door. Cant wait and I will let you all know what i think,then again alot of you already know.