Fixed Blade or Mechanicals
#1
I have been using the Sonic Head broadheads and have loved them for the most part. Only drawback is the small cutting diameter. Have had to track wounded deer longer than I have wanted in the past. I want the field point accuracy with the knok down power of a larger cutting diameter. Have heard horror stories of mechanicals not opening. What do you think?
#2
I'm going to get myself in trouble again. But..... if you use a modern compound bow withh 65-70 lbs of kinetic energy. A fixed blade broadhead doesn't stand a chance. Penetration has always been fixed blade users battle cry. Depending on the quality of mech head you use, you can out penetrate fixed blade. Accuracy, tuning and cutting diameter advantages are a given. Key is don't be cheap with broadhead.
#3
But..... if you use a modern compound bow withh 65-70 lbs of kinetic energy. A fixed blade broadhead doesn't stand a chance. Penetration has always been fixed blade users battle cry. Depending on the quality of mech head you use, you can out penetrate fixed blade. Accuracy, tuning and cutting diameter advantages are a given.
Boy you lost me with this.A fixed blade broadhead doesn't stand a chance against a mechanical??????????? Please explain.
Depending on which mechanical and fixed blade head I test against each otherI can get any result that I want with either style of head. Be it penetration, durability, cutting diameter, accuracy, etc...
Accuracy, tuning, and cutting diameter are most certainly not a given with either style.
#4
Nontypical Buck
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I see no pros and only cons with mechanical heads.If you can't get a fixed blade to fly strait,the worst thing you can do is screw on a mechanical.Wide cutting diamaters don't kill any faster if you double lung em.I've been on hand to see plenty of penetration issues with various mechanicals.Mechanicals have durability issue.
#5
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I see no pros and only cons with mechanical heads.If you can't get a fixed blade to fly strait,the worst thing you can do is screw on a mechanical.Wide cutting diamaters don't kill any faster if you double lung em.I've been on hand to see plenty of penetration issues with various mechanicals.Mechanicals have durability issue.
I see no pros and only cons with mechanical heads.If you can't get a fixed blade to fly strait,the worst thing you can do is screw on a mechanical.Wide cutting diamaters don't kill any faster if you double lung em.I've been on hand to see plenty of penetration issues with various mechanicals.Mechanicals have durability issue.
I will agree with you if you are using a over the top expandable.
And if everyone double lunged every shot it wouldn't matter what you use, but that is not the case in the real world. The bigger cutting diameter of the Rage (2")will give you a better chance for recovery on a marginal shotover a 1" fixed head on the same marginal shot.
I also know a lot of fixed heads that have a durability issue also.
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From: Balt, MD (orig: J-town,PA) The bowels of Hell!!!
ORIGINAL: annika3
Both these heads fly like a field point, lose NO KE opening up and penetrate like a fixed head.
The bigger cutting diameter of the Rage (2")will give you a better chance for recovery on a marginal shotover a 1" fixed head on the same marginal shot.
I also know a lot of fixed heads that have a durability issue also.
ORIGINAL: DougE
I see no pros and only cons with mechanical heads.If you can't get a fixed blade to fly strait,the worst thing you can do is screw on a mechanical.Wide cutting diamaters don't kill any faster if you double lung em.I've been on hand to see plenty of penetration issues with various mechanicals.Mechanicals have durability issue.
I see no pros and only cons with mechanical heads.If you can't get a fixed blade to fly strait,the worst thing you can do is screw on a mechanical.Wide cutting diamaters don't kill any faster if you double lung em.I've been on hand to see plenty of penetration issues with various mechanicals.Mechanicals have durability issue.
The bigger cutting diameter of the Rage (2")will give you a better chance for recovery on a marginal shotover a 1" fixed head on the same marginal shot.
I also know a lot of fixed heads that have a durability issue also.
Second, most peopleare leaning against 2 blade broadheads. It'sa myth that the 2" 2 blade leaves a larger wound than a 1.5" fixed blade. First reason being that the shape of the wound (slice)can lead to the wound closing and cause a loss of blood trail. Second, the wound is no larger. It's just flatter. Most experts recommend the 3 blade due to the shape of the wound (hole). Most fixed blades are over 1" in diameter and the overall cutting area is the same or larger than the 2" head.
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It,isn't justthe deployment of the blades that cause penetration issues,it's the size of the cut.I suppose a wide 2 inch cut mechanical like a hammerheadmay speed recovery with a gut shot but it will hinder recovery if you hit heavy bone.Therefore,I look at the argument abut mechanicals being better on a marginal hit a moot point.it depends on what kind of marginal hit we're talking about.Accuracy is a non-issue for me because i never have a problem getting pin point accuracy with fixed blades at over 290 fps.It's all about form and tuning.If you don't have both,you shopudn't be shooting at live game.
I've killed about 15 deer with various mechanicals without ever losing a single deer.WhatI got however,was very inconsistant results.I expect a passthrough 100% of the time and that wasn't always the case with mechanicals and i shoot over 70lbs of ke.The biggest reason Istopped using mechanicals was durability.the blades are held on the ferule at one spot,usually with a set screw and that compromises durability.Mechanicals will certainly kill deer but they aren't better.
I've killed about 15 deer with various mechanicals without ever losing a single deer.WhatI got however,was very inconsistant results.I expect a passthrough 100% of the time and that wasn't always the case with mechanicals and i shoot over 70lbs of ke.The biggest reason Istopped using mechanicals was durability.the blades are held on the ferule at one spot,usually with a set screw and that compromises durability.Mechanicals will certainly kill deer but they aren't better.
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First, all expandables loose KE on impact. Period end of discussion. The heads use friction to open. Friction means a reduction in speed. Reduction in speed means a reduction in KE. They just do not loose as much as a front opening head.
Second, most peopleare leaning against 2 blade broadheads. It'sa myth that the 2" 2 blade leaves a larger wound than a 1.5" fixed blade. First reason being that the shape of the wound (slice)can lead to the wound closing and cause a loss of blood trail. Second, the wound is no larger. It's just flatter. Most experts recommend the 3 blade due to the shape of the wound (hole). Most fixed blades are over 1" in diameter and the overall cutting area is the same or larger than the 2" head.
ORIGINAL: annika3
Both these heads fly like a field point, lose NO KE opening up and penetrate like a fixed head.
The bigger cutting diameter of the Rage (2")will give you a better chance for recovery on a marginal shotover a 1" fixed head on the same marginal shot.
I also know a lot of fixed heads that have a durability issue also.
ORIGINAL: DougE
I see no pros and only cons with mechanical heads.If you can't get a fixed blade to fly strait,the worst thing you can do is screw on a mechanical.Wide cutting diamaters don't kill any faster if you double lung em.I've been on hand to see plenty of penetration issues with various mechanicals.Mechanicals have durability issue.
I see no pros and only cons with mechanical heads.If you can't get a fixed blade to fly strait,the worst thing you can do is screw on a mechanical.Wide cutting diamaters don't kill any faster if you double lung em.I've been on hand to see plenty of penetration issues with various mechanicals.Mechanicals have durability issue.
The bigger cutting diameter of the Rage (2")will give you a better chance for recovery on a marginal shotover a 1" fixed head on the same marginal shot.
I also know a lot of fixed heads that have a durability issue also.
Second, most peopleare leaning against 2 blade broadheads. It'sa myth that the 2" 2 blade leaves a larger wound than a 1.5" fixed blade. First reason being that the shape of the wound (slice)can lead to the wound closing and cause a loss of blood trail. Second, the wound is no larger. It's just flatter. Most experts recommend the 3 blade due to the shape of the wound (hole). Most fixed blades are over 1" in diameter and the overall cutting area is the same or larger than the 2" head.
I would also like to know how many people can shoot a 1.5" fixed balde and get it to fly.
And who are these experts that recommend a 3 blade?
I know that the Drury's, Jay Gregory, Randy Ulmer, Lee and Tiffany, Chuck Adams and many more are shooting 2 blade Rage heads and they wouldn't be using them if they didn't work. Their careers dependon it.
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From: Balt, MD (orig: J-town,PA) The bowels of Hell!!!
Read the reviews and tests done on them. Accordingto the reviews and tests the 2 blade creates a flap that can close. A 3 blade creates a hole.I didn't say they will not work. I'm saying that they are not better than a 3 blade.
As for 3 blade fixed? Most hunters still used fixed blades. Ask most of the people on here what they use. It's called tuning your bow.
I have no problem with mechanicals. But your statements are way out there on how they perform compared to fixed or even 3 blade expandables.
As for 3 blade fixed? Most hunters still used fixed blades. Ask most of the people on here what they use. It's called tuning your bow.
I have no problem with mechanicals. But your statements are way out there on how they perform compared to fixed or even 3 blade expandables.


