Hoyt Razortec
11-05-2002 | 04:42 PM
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From: Fayetteville GA USA
RE: Hoyt Razortec
Frank,
I know you mentioned above, that your RazorTec with the Cam and 1/2 system has a considerably smoother draw.
Last year, when I purchased my 2002 model CyberTec, the first thing I noticed, was how much easier it was to pull my standard 65lbs back.
My question is, do you think your RazorTec pulls easier than your 2002 CyberTec?
I am very happy with my 2002 CyberTec, but I plan on getting a 2003 CyberTEC also, and I would really be glad to see an even SMOOTHER draw!
I know you mentioned above, that your RazorTec with the Cam and 1/2 system has a considerably smoother draw.
Last year, when I purchased my 2002 model CyberTec, the first thing I noticed, was how much easier it was to pull my standard 65lbs back.
My question is, do you think your RazorTec pulls easier than your 2002 CyberTec?
I am very happy with my 2002 CyberTec, but I plan on getting a 2003 CyberTEC also, and I would really be glad to see an even SMOOTHER draw!
11-05-2002 | 04:49 PM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Hoyt Razortec
The transition on the Cam and a Half from the bow at brace into the plateau of the draw force curve and then from the plateau down into the valley is a very gradual transition which makes the draw cycle feel smooth. But, the plateau at peak draw weight is actuallly rather long so you are holding that peak weight for a longer period of time. This is where the speed comes from.
In comparison with the Versacam, the Cam and a Half stays at peak draw weight longer during the draw cycle but the transition isn't as "harsh" (very subjective in this case) when compared to the Versacam's drop into the valley.
Edited by - PABowhntr on 11/05/2002 17:52:54
In comparison with the Versacam, the Cam and a Half stays at peak draw weight longer during the draw cycle but the transition isn't as "harsh" (very subjective in this case) when compared to the Versacam's drop into the valley.
Edited by - PABowhntr on 11/05/2002 17:52:54
11-05-2002 | 09:10 PM
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Typical Buck
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RE: Hoyt Razortec
Frank,
Great report and congratulations on your new Hoyt.
Not gonna tease you this time about missing out on the magic. : )
Those bronze limb pockets look good. You did a great job with the pics too.
Hoyt should put you on the payroll.
Sag.
Great report and congratulations on your new Hoyt.
Not gonna tease you this time about missing out on the magic. : )
Those bronze limb pockets look good. You did a great job with the pics too.
Hoyt should put you on the payroll.
Sag.
11-06-2002 | 05:24 AM
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Fork Horn
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From: Oxford, MA.
RE: Hoyt Razortec
Pabowhntr,excellent job on your review! I have one question? Iam planning on buying a razortec, iam a 28" draw. Do you think i should go with the 27.5-30" modules,or the next range down? Do you think there would be a performance gain with the lower range, given my short draw? Thanks.
Brian
Brian
11-06-2002 | 05:42 AM
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RE: Hoyt Razortec
bbahunter,
From the limited earlier reports that I have heard on the bow it is not less efficient at the shorter end of the draw length range (per module) as was the case with the Versacam to some extent. I have not done any testing in regard to this issue but can, and will, once Pennsylvania's early archery season is completed next weekend.
From the limited earlier reports that I have heard on the bow it is not less efficient at the shorter end of the draw length range (per module) as was the case with the Versacam to some extent. I have not done any testing in regard to this issue but can, and will, once Pennsylvania's early archery season is completed next weekend.
11-06-2002 | 06:09 AM
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RE: Hoyt Razortec
PABowhtr,
Very nice review. Like yourself, I'd really like that extra 1/2" inch of brace height. That alone would be enough to get me into a shop to try one. I also agree with your assessment of the cable dampeners. They go on all my bows also.
I forgot to ask, why is your cable dampener placed near the riser? I believe Simms recommends it up near the slide. I allow my slide to move about 1/4" past resting position before hitting the dampener. Supposedly this will help reduce additional vibration. It may decrease speed a hair, but quiet has always been more important to me.
Edited by - Straightarrow on 11/06/2002 07:13:37
Very nice review. Like yourself, I'd really like that extra 1/2" inch of brace height. That alone would be enough to get me into a shop to try one. I also agree with your assessment of the cable dampeners. They go on all my bows also.
I forgot to ask, why is your cable dampener placed near the riser? I believe Simms recommends it up near the slide. I allow my slide to move about 1/4" past resting position before hitting the dampener. Supposedly this will help reduce additional vibration. It may decrease speed a hair, but quiet has always been more important to me.
Edited by - Straightarrow on 11/06/2002 07:13:37
11-06-2002 | 07:12 AM
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RE: Hoyt Razortec
Straightarrow,
It is always easy for me to ask for more, after they come out with a new design. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Seriously though, I think the "almost 7.5 inch" brace height is very respectable. I took a doe with the bow this past Saturday and had my heaviest hunting jacket on as it was rather cold here in PA. I had no problems with the string slapping my arm with the 30 inch draw length setting and the 7 3/8th inch brace height. I found accuracy to be superb on the new bow. I don't just mean arrows touching but rather hitting the exact same hole! (at twenty yards ofcourse...
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As for the cable dampeners, I have not really tinkered with them at different positions. Len had once mentioned that placing them where the cable slide might him would then possibly result in potential tuning problems with certain bows so I decided not to push my luck. The Razortec is relatively quiet enough as it is but my thinking on this is "it can't hurt"...
It is always easy for me to ask for more, after they come out with a new design. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Seriously though, I think the "almost 7.5 inch" brace height is very respectable. I took a doe with the bow this past Saturday and had my heaviest hunting jacket on as it was rather cold here in PA. I had no problems with the string slapping my arm with the 30 inch draw length setting and the 7 3/8th inch brace height. I found accuracy to be superb on the new bow. I don't just mean arrows touching but rather hitting the exact same hole! (at twenty yards ofcourse...
)As for the cable dampeners, I have not really tinkered with them at different positions. Len had once mentioned that placing them where the cable slide might him would then possibly result in potential tuning problems with certain bows so I decided not to push my luck. The Razortec is relatively quiet enough as it is but my thinking on this is "it can't hurt"...
11-15-2002 | 01:37 PM
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RE: Hoyt Razortec
Great review...i have only held the bow...and that was a right handed model, I'm a lefty. I am really impressed. Currently I have a Legacy. No offence, but currently it is for sale. I appreciate your thurough review. In your opinion PA, is this bow user friendly for novice archers. Will it stay in tune, cam syncro? thanks.
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