I have shot sub-MOA groups from my Rem 700 MLS, but it is not a sub-MOA muzzleloader, because it will not produce that level of accuracy day-in and day-out. Sometimes I will shoot groups of 1.0"-2.0", and at times maybe as high as 2.5". That's about as big as the groups will expand, under normal circumstances.

And that is a big issue, as there are a lot of variables associated with muzzleloaders that the average guy doesn't realize. I went to check my sights two years ago and was shooting 5.0"-6.5" groups. I checked the scope mounts, bedding, you name it and could find no culprit. I opened a new box of pellets and fired three shots into 1.3". The box of pellets I was using was from last season, and although closed and stored in a relatively low humidity environment, had degraded to the point that accuracy was non-existant.

Add in factors like perhaps not starting bullets down the muzzle EXACTLY perfect every time, or not cleaning nipples with a nipple pick EVERY time, and it is easy to see how a 2.0" group at 100 yards in a muzzleloader is actually a good thing. Smaller is always better, but not always attainable.

Brian

Thanks Mark whiz. that was agreat page and yes I am fairly adept at, went to college to be a math teacher and switched to radiological engineering. I'm not sure MOA is being used correctly in all cases here. Seems it is being used as synonymous with 1 inch.

Well, you can add this topic to a list that includes fishing stories and sexual prowness! I'm lucky to shoot 2 inch groups at 50 yds with open sights.

Hang on there Mike, I might not be able to get 5/8" groups every time with ML, but pretty well, they call me the ladies man. Its very difficult, getting out of your house beating them off with a stick begging me to have thier babies and all. But being good looking is just a curse. I mean me and Gene Simmons have to bear this cross.

Hold on! I gotta go put on my waders, it's getting deep quick!

Believe me it sure ain't the biggest whopper told on this forum.