I need your thoughts on the savage 10ml. A local store has one on clearance for $249.99. It is an older model; no accu trigger(sp?), or fiber optic sights. It is blue with black synthetic stock. What are your thoughts and opinions?

Thanks in advance.

Mike

buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree, buy it. I was in the market for an in-line and was considering the Savage. However, I ran up on a deal for a Ruger 77/50 that I just couldn't turn down for $225.00. The Ruger was black composite stock, stainless steel, had Ruger stainless rings and a 209 conversion kit included. Every Savage I've looked at has started at $375.00. One that is comparable to what I got is around $400.00. So I saved a lot of money but I can't shoot smokeless powder and who knows, we all may toting smokeless rifles by other companies in the future. Since in-lines, side lock sales have dropped the same way traditional bow sales dropped when the compound took off. But as long as we have the freedom of choice, then I'm happy.

If I had ran up on it or a similiar deal when I found my Ruger I would have gladly paid the difference to own it no matter the stock type or blued vs stainless.

I'd buy it!

I would buy it you can adjust the older triggers.I have an older model with the old trigger and a false muzzle,and a newer model with the old trigger and both shoot about the same.
If all my rifles had the accru-trigger on them I would love them,The only one I have with the accru-trigger is a 223, and I have to get used to it every time I shoot the 223 so I prefer the older trigger.
Was it a ML1 or ML11?

Herman,

The markings on the barrel stated 10ml.

This would be my first muzzleloader and since I am familiar with bolt actions, it kind of appealed to me. It seamed over built compared to the others on the rack. I guess that would account for it being able to withstand the higher pressures of smokeless powder. What kind of accuracy could be reasonably expected and what is the effective range, I have no idea? Anybody have experience with them?

Thanks,

Mike

Now I have to convince my better half that it is to good of a deal to pass up. SC already has a long season, which gets irritating to her by December. This would stretch the season a little bit more!

If it's a 10ML-I (the original version), then it's a pretty good deal...but if it's a 10ML-II (pre Accu-Trigger) it's a steal. The 10ML-II adressed some convienience issues, like changing thje bolt and breachplug design to eliminate the 'ignition module,' which is simply a brass part that appears similar to a cartridge that's purpose is to hold the 209 primer. The 10ML-II has the primer slid into a slot directly on the boltface, which means there is nothing to lose. If you lose the ignition module for the 10ML in the field, you're out of luck.

Otherwise, the Savage is a great rifle. I have an Accu-Trigger equipped 10ML-IIBSS with the laminate stock and stainless barrelled action, and I absolutely love it. It's, by far, the best ML I've owned and I've owned several from several major brands (T/C, Knight and Traditions), and would buy another Savage in a heartbeat. I shoot 40.5 grains of Vhita Vouri N110 under a 300 grain Hornady SST/ML sabot at 2250fps, and get 1.5MOA out to 200 yards with it. It's clean, easy to maintain, reliable, and very convienient. It allows me to spend more time thinking about hunting, and a lot less time worrying about the rifle and whether it's going to go boom when I need it too.

Good luck,

Mike

Mine has ML10-11 on the barrel so I think yours is the first one they came out with,it has a clylinder(cannot remember what they are called ) that you put the primer in and put it in the chamber,the ML11 the primer fits in the bolt face.
If you work with them (just like any other rifle) they are capable of shooting very tight groups.I have shot less than inch groups @200 yds and a few 3in groups @300 yds,and lots of 3-shot one hole groups @100 yds.Last year alone I put over a thousand rounds through the 2 I have.
They are a little heavy but the ease of cleaning and the way they shoot make up for it.You can get lots of info here.
[link]http://dougva.proboards34.com/index.cgi[/link]

Sounds like a really good deal to me.
I am seening the 10ML's (not the 10MLII's) USED for that price.

I despise inlines, and I will never buy one.

They are a legalistic way of taking advantage of hunting seasons intended for traditional muzzleloading rifles. They are modern rifles, pure and simple, especially the Savage that uses "smokeless" powder, and do not teach the shooter either the shooting skills or hunting techniques that come with using tradtional muzzleloading rifles. The only advantage to having "inline" muzzleloading rifles available is that it gets more "shooters" into the woods to kill more deer when the deer population is growing every year. However, they should wait until the modern rifle season begins to use their modern, single shot rifles, because that is what they are. But then they wouldn't use the "inline," preferring an auto-loader, lever gun, or bolt action rifle instead.

Just my $0.02. Somebody needed to say it.

Kenneth Smith
Monroe, Louisiana