sell my muzzleloader on the Internet??
02-13-2004 | 02:23 AM
#11
Typical Buck
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From: Indiana
RE: sell my muzzleloader on the Internet??
ORIGINAL: Briman
Tell UPS that you are shipping a lamp.
You don't need to ship to an FFL, at least in most states.
Tell UPS that, they refused to deliver one for me.
You don't need to ship to an FFL, at least in most states.
02-13-2004 | 04:36 PM
#12
Fork Horn
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From: Wisconsin
RE: sell my muzzleloader on the Internet??
Try gunbroker.com. It's basically an ebay for guys to sell gun stuff. If you need an FFL (which I'm sure you don't) There are guys that will do it for 15 or 20 bucks.
Cybersniper
Cybersniper
02-16-2004 | 06:44 PM
#13
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From: Modesto Ca USA
RE: sell my muzzleloader on the Internet??
Just received a Winchester X-150 from Pa. via UPS that was listed for sale on these classifieds. The gun was listed as an ML with UPS and there was no problem. Took 6 days to Ca, and everything arrived just fine. You may run into some who don't know what their talking about, but the shipment is legal.
Ed
Ed
02-19-2004 | 10:16 PM
#15
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From: Surprise Arizona
RE: sell my muzzleloader on the Internet??
In pretty much all states exept Illinois, New Jersy, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan and Hawaii have loose black powder laws. It is leagal to sell black powder rifles here in Arizona without a license. I would require a signature from somebody of leagal age.
03-06-2004 | 04:25 PM
#16
Spike
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RE: sell my muzzleloader on the Internet??
You were most likely talking to a anti they are everywere.It wouldnt matter if the gun was melted down into a coin,to them its still a gun.They like to make everyone think there doing something wrong.Ship it Theres no law says you cant. pan.
03-07-2004 | 02:38 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
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From: Coralville, IA. USA
RE: sell my muzzleloader on the Internet??
If the idiot at the UPS counter refuses it probably means that he doesn't know the law or the UPS policy, and doesn't want to go find out. If I were you I'd ask to speak to a supervisor, or if that fails call the UPS 800 information number and have the main office contact your UPS station and educate them on UPS policy.
In a slightly different situation, I sold and shipped a Tokarev SVT40 via UPS (actually, my wife shipped it because I was busy), and the woman at the UPS counter, when my wife told her it was a rifle, about had a stroke. In that case, since the SVT-40 is considered a "Curio or Relic" firearm it can be shipped to a person with a C&R FFL (collector, not a dealer). I had an inksigned copy of the recipient's C&R FFL which was shown to the clerk and then secured in the box with the rifle as per federal law and BATF guidelines. Fortunately, anticipating a problem, I had called the UPS main office and verified their policy before my wife took it in to the UPS station. To clerk was about to refuse shipment but my wife, armed with knowledge to combat ignorance, had her contact the UPS HQ and the clerk grudgingly shipped the rifle.
Another thing to note is that Cabela's, and a number of other online retailers, regularly sell ML's through mail order and online and ship via UPS right to the customers door (which is perfectly legal in most states). If Cabela's can do it, than you can too. I'd also ask the UPS clerk when was the last time she'd heard of a crime being committed with a muzzleloading rifle and see what response you get...just for fun, of course!
Mike
In a slightly different situation, I sold and shipped a Tokarev SVT40 via UPS (actually, my wife shipped it because I was busy), and the woman at the UPS counter, when my wife told her it was a rifle, about had a stroke. In that case, since the SVT-40 is considered a "Curio or Relic" firearm it can be shipped to a person with a C&R FFL (collector, not a dealer). I had an inksigned copy of the recipient's C&R FFL which was shown to the clerk and then secured in the box with the rifle as per federal law and BATF guidelines. Fortunately, anticipating a problem, I had called the UPS main office and verified their policy before my wife took it in to the UPS station. To clerk was about to refuse shipment but my wife, armed with knowledge to combat ignorance, had her contact the UPS HQ and the clerk grudgingly shipped the rifle.
Another thing to note is that Cabela's, and a number of other online retailers, regularly sell ML's through mail order and online and ship via UPS right to the customers door (which is perfectly legal in most states). If Cabela's can do it, than you can too. I'd also ask the UPS clerk when was the last time she'd heard of a crime being committed with a muzzleloading rifle and see what response you get...just for fun, of course!
Mike
03-07-2004 | 02:46 PM
#18
Typical Buck
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From: Indiana
RE: sell my muzzleloader on the Internet??
I see my situation with the UPS clerk pissed you guys off almost as much as it did me. I resolved the problem by taking it to the USPS and mailing it, No problem.
03-09-2004 | 02:05 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: sell my muzzleloader on the Internet??
If you run it thru a mailbox etc place which is now the UPS store they may balk at it. I bring it right to ups and never have any problems whether a real firearm or a muzzleloader. Most of the people behind the counter don't know the law and don't want to be bothered to ever learn it.
