495 No Excuses
12-03-2003, 06:12 AM
#1
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 93
495 No Excuses
Anyone here use them? I just bought a box,to try out of my Knight Disc Rifle,and have Triple 7 Powder on hand.But im hearing that Pyrodex P is more suitable to use with the big Conicals. Also at what Velocity does Leading of the Barrel become a problem.I was thinking of trying 70 Grains of T-7, ffg,up to 90 Grains.Will these powder charges,result in leading,out of a 26" Barrel,with these bullet's?.
12-03-2003, 06:45 AM
#2
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Rantoul IL USA
Posts: 193
RE: 495 No Excuses
I use the 460 gr in my .451 cal White M98, great conicals. I use 80 gr of T7 2f. Leading shouldn't be an issue unless you push it past 1450 fps. Let us know how they do in that Knight... I have a Mag DISK and am considering trying the same thing. 70-90 gr of T7 should be fine.
12-03-2003, 05:38 PM
#3
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kountze, Texas
Posts: 5,400
RE: 495 No Excuses
Wildweasel,
Last wednesday, the day before thanksgiving, I shot a young buck with the 460 gr. .50 cal. No Excuses bullet out of my T/C Hawken. I use 85 gr. of FFG blackpowder, and I bet two shoulders of a moose couldn't stop this load. I don't know if the 495 gr. will stabilize out of my 1-48 twist, but the .50 460 is extremely accurate.
These are high quality bullets and I would recommend them to anybody. I have never had any problem with leading in my gun, and I have been through 3 of the 50 count boxes. Your faster rate of twist may tend to lead a bit more, but it wouldn't stop me from using them.
C. Davis
Last wednesday, the day before thanksgiving, I shot a young buck with the 460 gr. .50 cal. No Excuses bullet out of my T/C Hawken. I use 85 gr. of FFG blackpowder, and I bet two shoulders of a moose couldn't stop this load. I don't know if the 495 gr. will stabilize out of my 1-48 twist, but the .50 460 is extremely accurate.
These are high quality bullets and I would recommend them to anybody. I have never had any problem with leading in my gun, and I have been through 3 of the 50 count boxes. Your faster rate of twist may tend to lead a bit more, but it wouldn't stop me from using them.
C. Davis
12-11-2003, 03:11 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: 495 No Excuses
Took me a few day's,but i can tell you ,that my Knight Elite Loves the 495 No Excuses.Accuracy was unremarkable,untill i hit the Sweet spot,and once there,it's is proving to be a 3/4" Shooter,at 100Yds.My Load is as follow's.
495 Gr No Excuses
85 Gr,Triple 7 ffg
Winchester 209's
Shot 2 3- shot groups at 100.just to make sure,that it was not a fluke.3/4" first group.followed by a 11/16" on the second Group.Now ill try out some 5 shot groups this weekend,to see if they open up or not,but as far as testing more ,im satisified,and will put the brakes on,at this point. Anyone have a Guess as to my Velocity? Ill set my Chrono up within the few week's,and let you know how close you came!
495 Gr No Excuses
85 Gr,Triple 7 ffg
Winchester 209's
Shot 2 3- shot groups at 100.just to make sure,that it was not a fluke.3/4" first group.followed by a 11/16" on the second Group.Now ill try out some 5 shot groups this weekend,to see if they open up or not,but as far as testing more ,im satisified,and will put the brakes on,at this point. Anyone have a Guess as to my Velocity? Ill set my Chrono up within the few week's,and let you know how close you came!
12-16-2003, 10:11 PM
#5
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kountze, Texas
Posts: 5,400
RE: 495 No Excuses
Wildweasel,
I do not have a chrono., but my guess is that your velocity will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1300-1400 fps. Probably closer to 1300. It sounds pretty meager, but 495 gr. of lead at that speed will penetrate like a bunker buster.
I ordered my 460 grainers about 4 years ago from the guy in Utah because I was wanting to work up a true power load in a full size .50 conical to someday fullfill my dream a taking an elk with my sidelock. I quickly discovered that this load was the most accurate thing I have found. I know that 460 gr. may not be necessary for the local whitetails, but it is nice to put a shot exactly where you aim it.
C. Davis
I do not have a chrono., but my guess is that your velocity will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1300-1400 fps. Probably closer to 1300. It sounds pretty meager, but 495 gr. of lead at that speed will penetrate like a bunker buster.
I ordered my 460 grainers about 4 years ago from the guy in Utah because I was wanting to work up a true power load in a full size .50 conical to someday fullfill my dream a taking an elk with my sidelock. I quickly discovered that this load was the most accurate thing I have found. I know that 460 gr. may not be necessary for the local whitetails, but it is nice to put a shot exactly where you aim it.
C. Davis
