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Gm54-120 01-08-2018 10:38 AM

Well its time for another pellet....i guess
 
They have been mentioned a couple times but now they are listed on the Hodgdon website. The NEW Triple7 Firestar pellet. Not sure how new it really is (chemically) without a SDS to compare. Its currently not working.

https://www.hodgdon.com/triple-seven-firestar-pellets/


Cleaner Burning – More shots between cleaning
Higher Velocity – Gain up to 50 FPS
More Efficient – Longitudinal grooves provide more surface area for ignition



A quick search for pricing is $22-30/60 pellets. Just as a reference BlueMZ pellets are $19/48, Whitehots are $24/72 and the Firestars are $22/60 at Grafs. $29/100 for the original T7 pellets so they dont appear to be terribly out of line in price.

lemoyne 01-08-2018 05:59 PM

Does cleaner burning mean no more crud-ring?

hunters_life 01-08-2018 08:49 PM

I have what may be a stupid question. My understanding is that pellets are designed to burn from inside out. Just how will those grooves give more surface area for burn? I'm not the physics and geometry wiz the old man was so go slow.

falcon 01-09-2018 02:56 AM

Just what America needs-another muzzleloader pellet.

Gm54-120 01-09-2018 06:08 AM

APP/Shockey has a round pellet now too. Either they found a way around the patent or it ran out.

Actually the newer APP ROUND pellet sounds more interesting than the Firestar if its just a reshaped T7 pellet.


BTW it should be noted that it takes 3 Firestar pellets to equal 100gr of loose. I was made aware of that after the price comparison. If it takes 3 then its a VERY expensive propellant.

IAhuntr 01-09-2018 08:55 AM

Wouldn't the new convoluted shape create more free-air space within the combustion area of the rifle? I always thought that packed tight was better??

ronlaughlin 01-09-2018 09:33 AM

Until you, or we, or they, actually shoot the pellet, anything you write is pure speculation is it not?

























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BarnesAddict 01-09-2018 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by IAhuntr (Post 4325228)
Wouldn't the new convoluted shape create more free-air space within the combustion area of the rifle? I always thought that packed tight was better??

Even regular T7 pellets leave some room for air. How these new pellets perform is yet to be determined, until someone starts using them.
As far as packed tight, you don't pack pellets like you do loose propellant. Others (not me) have determined that anything over 40#fpf will crack or crush pellets, which then can increase barrel pressures. It is recommended to seat the sabot/bullet securely on the pellets.

IAhuntr 01-09-2018 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by BarnesAddict (Post 4325236)
Even regular T7 pellets leave some room for air. How these new pellets perform is yet to be determined, until someone starts using them.
As far as packed tight, you don't pack pellets like you do loose propellant. Others (not me) have determined that anything over 40#fpf will crack or crush pellets, which then can increase barrel pressures. It is recommended to seat the sabot/bullet securely on the pellets.

Yeah, I understand all of that and yes, I know how to properly load pellets, but I'm asking how more free air space can create more f.p.s. than the regular pellets. I would think that under the principle of gunpowder combustion, more dead space would result in a less powerful charge.

BarnesAddict 01-09-2018 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by IAhuntr (Post 4325240)
Yeah, I understand all of that and yes, I know how to properly load pellets, but I'm asking how more free air space can create more f.p.s. than the regular pellets. I would think that under the principle of gunpowder combustion, more dead space would result in a less powerful charge.

50fps is very slight at best and its affect will likely have no affect for most shooters who use pellets. The possibility may be with their claim of it burning cleaner.


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