Well its time for another pellet....i guess
 

They have been mentioned a couple times but now they are listed on the Hodgdon website. The NEW Triple7 Firestar pellet. Not sure how new it really is (chemically) without a SDS to compare. Its currently not working.

https://www.hodgdon.com/triple-seven-firestar-pellets/




A quick search for pricing is $22-30/60 pellets. Just as a reference BlueMZ pellets are $19/48, Whitehots are $24/72 and the Firestars are $22/60 at Grafs. $29/100 for the original T7 pellets so they dont appear to be terribly out of line in price.

Does cleaner burning mean no more crud-ring?

I have what may be a stupid question. My understanding is that pellets are designed to burn from inside out. Just how will those grooves give more surface area for burn? I'm not the physics and geometry wiz the old man was so go slow.

Just what America needs-another muzzleloader pellet.

APP/Shockey has a round pellet now too. Either they found a way around the patent or it ran out.

Actually the newer APP ROUND pellet sounds more interesting than the Firestar if its just a reshaped T7 pellet.


BTW it should be noted that it takes 3 Firestar pellets to equal 100gr of loose. I was made aware of that after the price comparison. If it takes 3 then its a VERY expensive propellant.

Wouldn't the new convoluted shape create more free-air space within the combustion area of the rifle? I always thought that packed tight was better??

Until you, or we, or they, actually shoot the pellet, anything you write is pure speculation is it not?

























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Even regular T7 pellets leave some room for air. How these new pellets perform is yet to be determined, until someone starts using them.
As far as packed tight, you don't pack pellets like you do loose propellant. Others (not me) have determined that anything over 40#fpf will crack or crush pellets, which then can increase barrel pressures. It is recommended to seat the sabot/bullet securely on the pellets.

Yeah, I understand all of that and yes, I know how to properly load pellets, but I'm asking how more free air space can create more f.p.s. than the regular pellets. I would think that under the principle of gunpowder combustion, more dead space would result in a less powerful charge.

50fps is very slight at best and its affect will likely have no affect for most shooters who use pellets. The possibility may be with their claim of it burning cleaner.

3pellets for a 100gr load
At $22/60 or more per pack
Thats over a buck a pop just for the powder.

By my math they even seem more expensive per shot than even BH 209.

Well I only ever purchased and used one box of pellets years ago when I got my first inline. They were Pyrodex 50/50 I believe. I have no interest in them but hey, whatever trips your trigger.

Blackhorn209 is pretty much cheaper than all pellets when you figure in that around 85gr by volume its really close to the same speed as 2 pellets. Using heavier bullets the advantage gets better.

I got a box of 50 Pyrodex 50-50 pellets at Walmart for $5.00.They had rifles under $100 and I got boxes of round balls for $4.00 each.When they liquidate their muzzle stuff you can get bargains.

Thanks for sharing this information. I no longer use pellets anymore but its great to read up on new products from those who know black powder.

Absolutely. ATM we dont even have a SDS to compare composition. The Firestars will not be available until February. Im not sure where to get the newer APP pellet yet. I cant seem to find them anywhere.

Typically, APPs line of powders are easier to ignite and have less crud ring. Those reasons alone are why i think they are more interesting than the Firestar.

I dont really have enough interest in pellets or a 50cal rifle that i want to subject to any corrosive power other than maybe Blackhorn209. That rifle and barrel can not be replaced easily or affordably.

For Hodgdon to come out with this product and the expense when purchasing by the box, one would hope something offsets the price with much improved benefits.
I shoot a 3 - pellet T7 (150grs) charge for about 45 cents per shot. That's enough cost....

i personally talked to a guy ( mike ) @ hodgdon & they say they won't release them until end of feb or beginning of march. he told me that they shot it multiable times beforehave a some what crud ring. i asked him what was multiable times & he just kept stating multiable . each pellet weighs aprox 33 grains & said i would have to check my manufactors recommendation of grains allowed. i still don't think anything out there is going to beat blackhorn 209. plan & simple.

You can bet the stuff will contain potassium perchlorate and sodium benzoate. Maybe some dicyaniamide too.