If you have ever had a froze plug on ANY MLer then you won't go without lubing your BP threads no matter what powder you are shooting. That's if you have any sense anyway. Them suckers are ROUGH to put it mildly. Hell I'd probably lube a MLer BP thread even shooting smokeless! It's not like it costs more than a couple penny's to do and a couple seconds. To me the "no lube needed" advertisement is flat stupid and asking for a seized BP.

I agree, so whats your point? All the Muzzleloaders I own I'll shoot BH209 and not lube the breech plug.

You need to get your info right. Western says to not use lube on the breech plug.

Because, i'm not sure if your complaints on the CVA BP are with dry threads? For me when the threads were dry the BP spun right off.

No, western says "no lube needed" not "do not use lube". HUGE difference there Pete.

I'm guessing you're kidding.

Wondering if you'd pick up on that

You never know with old farts.

I just came back from the dentist and sitting in the waiting room I was reading a copy of F&S Nov 2015 edition comparing break open MLs. The 4 "experts" tested the CVA Optima V2, Traditions Pursuit G4 Ultralite , T/C Impact and Knight Vision.
Overall test for fit, feel, reliability, function and ease of loading/priming and cleaning.
These four tested choose the CVA as #1 with the rest falling in the order listed above. Having read the reviews with the pros and cons I agree with the results stated about the CVA. Having no experience with the others I have no comment.

No accuracy test?