Gm54-120

I always measure my smokeless powder and likely more carefully than the vast majority using subs.

To this day, sub pressure data is sparse but i can tell you what kind of pressure my SMLs are creating with a good degree of accuracy.

Triple Se7en

I am glad not to be born and raised in Pennsylvania, having to deal with the flintlock regulations they have there. Here in Michigan, I see a flintlock in the woods once every 7-8 years...... that's it. They are the rarest of rifles here.

I have never owned a Flintlock, or a package of pellets. Sold all my sidelocks except one. These days, I am so-married to inlines, plastic sabots, removeable breechplugs and Blackhorn 209 sub powder.

MountainDevil54

nothing wrong with a flinter. Plenty of good ones out there today, custom or production. All about good powder and care in the field.

super_hunt54

I shot a flinter for a number of years. I just got to where I hated the "flash" from the flash pan. It was creating a bit of a flinch. Tried out a couple of different kinds of pellets and didn't see the consistency of them verses loose. Haven't went the smokeless route YET but I'm thinking really hard about one of them there new fangled fancy dancy Swinglock custom jobs. It would solve the not having a .45cal issue and they are smokeless capable if I wanted to give smokeless a swing. Not to mention they are a dang thing of beauty. Absolutely gorgeous rifles. Gonna have to do some serious heavy pettin and smooth talkin for the boss (wife) to approve that one though. Dem suckers are a bit on the salty side for a front stuffer!

Gm54-120

Swinglocks are super sweet but i can show you how to put together a very sweet 45cal SML for much much less. You can use either a Rem, RemML or Savage/Stevens action.

super_hunt54

Don't like bolt action ML'ers GM. My fat sausage fingers can't get the cap in or out of them but looking at those swinglocks I guess I'd have to use a tool as well. Kind of a flip of the coin there so to speak. Get the swinglock and it comes with a full bore sizing die cut from that barrel, since there's no bolt there it would be sort of balanced like my TC with the barrel mounted back so that's a plus and did I mention that they are purdy BTW I will throw you to the wolves when I start my smooth talkin to the wife since YOU are the one that turned me on to them GM

Gm54-120

I hear you.

One of the conversions im talking about wont need a 209 primer. It uses LRMPs in a brass module.



Hankins also uses the same module for T/C Encore conversions.

Gm54-120

He does Encores, Apexs and H&Rs using a 45/70 barrel.

275gr BE at 2300ish fps. Loads are typically kept on the milder side with the break action builds but it could safely use more with the right barrel.

Muley Hunter

Makes no sense to shoot a smokeless muzzy in this state. I could only use it in rifle seasons.

If i'm going to shoot a Rem 700 muzzy with smokeless powder. I might as well just use a 30-06.

Gm54-120

My sympathy to you for living in Colorado. I thought you preferred hunting rifle season anyway. I thought you said the ML season was too hot? There is nothing preventing using a SML for fun shooting so yes it makes sense in any state.

I use mine all the time during firearms season with no regrets. Its more accurate than many center fires and i dont have to be concerned with case life.