252g Powerbelt Hollowpoint
08-02-2015, 04:29 PM
#201
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Saxonburg Pa
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No fear Ron. I'll use a sabot for elk. Probably a Barnes 250gr T-EZ since Carlos has a good price on them. I'll use 100-110gr of BH now that I have the recoil manageable.
I have the muley buck tag for 2nd rifle season. That's Oct 17-25. I plan to get an OTC bull tag for another unit that's not too far from me. I have to go over a 13,000ft pass, so hopefully not too much snow, or they'll close the pass. My unit isn't OTC. The OTC elk unit will be very crowded. The plan is to hunt the first weekend in my unit for the buck. The first weekend in the OTC elk unit will be a zoo, and I know the hunters will be gone by Monday, or hanging out in camp, because they're worn out already. I'll hunt the elk unit Mon-Fri, or until I get an elk if I get lucky. Then if I didn't get a deer the first weekend i'll go back to my unit to hunt for deer the last weekend.
So, 4 days for deer, and 5 days for elk. I'll be worn out by then. So, I don't want to mess with two different loads for deer/elk. I could use a 338gr PB for both, but i'm a chicken, and want a more proven bullet. I know the Barnes will work.
I know it's a contradiction to this whole thread, but I don't want to lose an animal just to prove a point. I still feel the PB would work, but why shoot a 338gr bullet when I can get it done with a 250gr bullet? The PAST pad is going to work only so good.
I have the muley buck tag for 2nd rifle season. That's Oct 17-25. I plan to get an OTC bull tag for another unit that's not too far from me. I have to go over a 13,000ft pass, so hopefully not too much snow, or they'll close the pass. My unit isn't OTC. The OTC elk unit will be very crowded. The plan is to hunt the first weekend in my unit for the buck. The first weekend in the OTC elk unit will be a zoo, and I know the hunters will be gone by Monday, or hanging out in camp, because they're worn out already. I'll hunt the elk unit Mon-Fri, or until I get an elk if I get lucky. Then if I didn't get a deer the first weekend i'll go back to my unit to hunt for deer the last weekend.
So, 4 days for deer, and 5 days for elk. I'll be worn out by then. So, I don't want to mess with two different loads for deer/elk. I could use a 338gr PB for both, but i'm a chicken, and want a more proven bullet. I know the Barnes will work.
I know it's a contradiction to this whole thread, but I don't want to lose an animal just to prove a point. I still feel the PB would work, but why shoot a 338gr bullet when I can get it done with a 250gr bullet? The PAST pad is going to work only so good.
08-02-2015, 04:49 PM
#202
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
Isn't the T-EZ just an MZ with a tip, thinner sabot, and flat base? Same construction.
I'm amazed you say the Barnes T-EZ is not a lot better than a PB. I thought PB's were junk? Are we going through this whole thing with Barnes now?
I'm thinking you won't be happy unless I use a Bloodline.
I'm amazed you say the Barnes T-EZ is not a lot better than a PB. I thought PB's were junk? Are we going through this whole thing with Barnes now?
I'm thinking you won't be happy unless I use a Bloodline.
Last edited by Muley Hunter; 08-02-2015 at 04:57 PM.
08-02-2015, 05:08 PM
#203
Nontypical Buck
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Rapid City, South Dakota
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Choices
The 250 TEZ ruined 3 jugs.
The 300 FPB ruined 4 jugs.
The 300 XTP ruined 4 jugs.
The 250 Monoflex ruined 5 jugs.
The 245g Lehigh CF ruined 5 jugs.
Just saying, not saying, just saying.....
..... isn't it wonderful there are so many good bullets available.
The 300 FPB ruined 4 jugs.
The 300 XTP ruined 4 jugs.
The 250 Monoflex ruined 5 jugs.
The 245g Lehigh CF ruined 5 jugs.
Just saying, not saying, just saying.....
..... isn't it wonderful there are so many good bullets available.
08-02-2015, 05:09 PM
#204
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Saxonburg Pa
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Isn't the T-EZ just an MZ with a tip, thinner sabot, and flat base? Same construction.
I'm amazed you say the Barnes T-EZ is not a lot better than a PB. I thought PB's were junk? Are we going through this whole thing with Barnes now?
I'm thinking you won't be happy unless I use a Bloodline.
I'm amazed you say the Barnes T-EZ is not a lot better than a PB. I thought PB's were junk? Are we going through this whole thing with Barnes now?
I'm thinking you won't be happy unless I use a Bloodline.
08-02-2015, 05:21 PM
#205
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
08-02-2015, 05:27 PM
#206
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
The 250 TEZ ruined 3 jugs.
The 300 FPB ruined 4 jugs.
The 300 XTP ruined 4 jugs.
The 250 Monoflex ruined 5 jugs.
The 245g Lehigh CF ruined 5 jugs.
Just saying, not saying, just saying.......... isn't it wonderful there are so many good bullets available.
The 300 FPB ruined 4 jugs.
The 300 XTP ruined 4 jugs.
The 250 Monoflex ruined 5 jugs.
The 245g Lehigh CF ruined 5 jugs.
Just saying, not saying, just saying.....
..... isn't it wonderful there are so many good bullets available.Not counting the Lehigh. That's different expanding bullet than the rest.
08-02-2015, 05:29 PM
#207
Nontypical Buck
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08-02-2015, 05:41 PM
#210
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
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He didn't test an MZ. It might do the same thing. The T-EZ expanded perfectly with 80gr of BH.
I'll be using 100-110gr. I'm sure it will expand at 150yds.
Is this why you're saying the T-EZ isn't a good bullet, and the MZ is better? Kind of weak when the MZ wasn't even tested.
I'll be using 100-110gr. I'm sure it will expand at 150yds.
Is this why you're saying the T-EZ isn't a good bullet, and the MZ is better? Kind of weak when the MZ wasn't even tested.