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#21
I have funny things bouncing around in the back of my head.
I'm a flusher and I'm proud
I'm part of an original crowd
And if you look around you say
There seems to be a flushing craze
I'm a flusher
He's a flusher
She's a flusher
We're all flushers
Wouldn't you like to be a flusher too
I'm a flusher and I'm proud
I'm part of an original crowd
And if you look around you say
There seems to be a flushing craze
I'm a flusher
He's a flusher
She's a flusher
We're all flushers
Wouldn't you like to be a flusher too
Why do I think of a toilet when I read that?
#24
People have been using soap and water since black powder guns were invented and some of those old rifles can still be used. They used water to clean cannon barrels as well and some of them are still being shot. If it was good enough for them, it is good enough for me. No copper of plastic has ever seen the inside of my flintlock barrel.
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#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,922
And they didn't always have soap and water available. Seems as though I read somewhere at some point in time, that the Mountain Men were prone to urinating down the barrels of their rifles as a crude form (if you will) of flushing them. Especially in the dead of winter when streams, rivers, and lakes were locked up with ice and procuring water by any means other than melting snow was difficult.
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I've even seen instances where I asked the former ML owner how long ago he used bore butter, because some came out of his barrel that I recently cleaned -- from when he used bore butter 12-15 years ago. Yet he continued to use/fire, clean and store that ML every year after the switch to gun oil storage and continued to bathe it in soap and water.
Heck we even had a lesson this past week with a member here selling his gun and probably never knew the lands and grooves were stuffed with plastic from sabots.
Lesson is to use good products and proper techniques to remove what doesn't belong inside that bore. You don't pay $600 for the ML and 50 cents for the cleaner.
Again, I'm done here. Use whatever crap you want inside your bores. Wonderful iprovements and technology are out there. If you choose to ignore it, then prepare yourself for the new purchaser of your sold ML to inform you of what came out of the bore, when properly cleaned.
Last edited by Triple Se7en; 04-14-2015 at 04:13 AM.
#26
I'm sure most of us are talking about traditional sidelocks, and most of us are shooting a PRB. You seem to be talking about inlines, and modern bullets. The OP has a sidelock, and is shooting a PRB.
If I do shoot an all lead conical in a sidelock i'll use a bronze brush, and maybe some Hoppe's 9 to loosen up the lead first. Then i'll flush, because it's the best way to clean out the breech channel. This won't be often, because i'll use a PRB 99.9% of the time.
If I do shoot an all lead conical in a sidelock i'll use a bronze brush, and maybe some Hoppe's 9 to loosen up the lead first. Then i'll flush, because it's the best way to clean out the breech channel. This won't be often, because i'll use a PRB 99.9% of the time.
#27
I think you are correct Muley, I never used bore butter or any other concoction, I use spit wet patches for round balls so no plastic has ever gone down or came out of my barrel and I will continue to use hot soapy water and not worry about it. Now as for those frontloading modern rifles that are just a centerfire without a cartridge but with a modern primer, that are being passed off as a weapon for primitive seasons, never had to clean one, and most likely never will
#28
I think you are correct Muley, I never used bore butter or any other concoction, I use spit wet patches for round balls so no plastic has ever gone down or came out of my barrel and I will continue to use hot soapy water and not worry about it. Now as for those frontloading modern rifles that are just a centerfire without a cartridge but with a modern primer, that are being passed off as a weapon for primitive seasons, never had to clean one, and most likely never will
They also thought about banning BH 209, but never did it for the same reason. Too much pressure.
#29
I'm sure most of us are talking about traditional sidelocks, and most of us are shooting a PRB. You seem to be talking about inlines, and modern bullets. The OP has a sidelock, and is shooting a PRB.
If I do shoot an all lead conical in a sidelock i'll use a bronze brush, and maybe some Hoppe's 9 to loosen up the lead first. Then i'll flush, because it's the best way to clean out the breech channel. This won't be often, because i'll use a PRB 99.9% of the time.
If I do shoot an all lead conical in a sidelock i'll use a bronze brush, and maybe some Hoppe's 9 to loosen up the lead first. Then i'll flush, because it's the best way to clean out the breech channel. This won't be often, because i'll use a PRB 99.9% of the time.
I only ever owned one 'true" in-line with a removable breech plug. It was a Traditions E-bolt with a satin nickel finish and black synthetic stock. It's also the only muzzleloading rifle that I ever fired a Powerbelt or sabot/bullet combo through. It was a good shooter and I did take a doe with it once, but it never felt like I was hunting with a muzzleloader any of the times I used it so I gave it to a good friend who has done a lot for me over the years. He loves it and uses it every season in NY.
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#30
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,922
Latey I've been keeping four cleaners in my supplies room. Kroil, Ballistol, Birchwood-Casey 2 In 1 Cleaner and the heavy-duty Barnes CR-10, which I only use once a year.
My storage protectors are either WD-40 Specialist or Birchwood-Casey Barricade.
When my rifles are either new or I purchase a used one, they get many laps of JB Bore Paste, sometimes 50 laps
My storage protectors are either WD-40 Specialist or Birchwood-Casey Barricade.
When my rifles are either new or I purchase a used one, they get many laps of JB Bore Paste, sometimes 50 laps