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Cooper of Montana - New Muzzleloder
Crowhunter1 started the discussion about these new inline muzzleloaders being manufactured in Montana and I have done some further digging on the subject. From everything I can see and find the guys building these ML's and the rifles are top notch people.
http://www.cooperfirearms.com I believe they did have Toby Bridges test and review the rifle and he did have really positive comments about the rifle, but, and I apologize to Mr. Bridges, I really do not take a lot of his reviews at face value, kinda like believing everything that Randy Wakeman has to say. Anyway I have been trying to find out more about the rifle. This is a picture of one of the rifles. ![]() The receiver LOOKS like a long action Remington 700, but really is not - they build (Copper) their own receiver. And even in this picture I have or think I have found out they do have a shorter action that they are going to use in the final version of the rifle... It could look more like the one in this picture. ![]() Here are some of the rifle specs as listed by Steve of Cooper MODEL 22 ML SPECIFICATIONS: • ACTION: Stainless or Blued (Chrome Moly) steel with one rear locking lug bolt action muzzle loader. *see foot note. • MAGAZINE: N/A • EXTRACTION: Primer is held captive in a slotted bolt face, which allows positive extraction from the breech plug & easy manual removal from the bolt face. • EJECTION: N/A • TRIGGER: Timney single stage trigger. • ACTION DIMENSIONS: 8.25” x 1.3” • AVAILABLE CALIBERS: 50 • SAFETY: Two position on tang. • PASSIVE SAFETIES: Bolt handle acts as safety lug when in the locked (in battery) position. Action has gas vent holes. • WEIGHT: 7.75 # • LENGTH: 44 ¾” with 26” barrel • BARREL: Stainless or blued (Chrome Moly) steel, 26” 50 caliber 1x28 twist. Barrel has 11 degree target crown beveled to facilitate loading from the muzzle. *see foot note • BREECH PLUG: Stainless steel, removable with supplied tool. • STOCKS: Walnut or exotic species with hand checkering (various grades) or laminate (various color schemes). All stocks are glass bedded. Available in Classic, Custom classic, western classic, Schnabel, and Jackson game. • IGNITION: #209 shotgun primer • RAM ROD: Easton carbon fiber core with aluminum sheath, extendable, brass tips threaded 10/32 for accessories. • SIGHTING EQUIPMENT: Action is drilled & tapped to accept standard Cooper scope bases or the Ken Farrell picatinney rail for the Model 22 action. Open sights are an option & are New England Custom Guns top mount variety. The Model 22 ML is rated to handle standard “Magnum” (150 grains, volume) of black powder or a substitute. It IS rated to handle Black Horn 209 powder. It is NOT rated for smokeless powder. * Action cannot be converted to fire center fire cartridges. Sure does look like a nice rifle... |
Wonder what the price of that will run?
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I got a new personal rule.
If I'm uncomfortable taking a rifle into the woods, for fear of a scratch, I won't purchase it. The last Knight I purchased, I intentionally picked the basic black synthetic stock. This Knight may look like murderers-row, all scratched up in five more years and I really don't care one-bit. No more fancy-schmancy purchases for me. |
Originally Posted by BarnesAddict
(Post 4184454)
Wonder what the price of that will run?
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Originally Posted by BarnesAddict
(Post 4184454)
Wonder what the price of that will run?
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Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter
(Post 4184474)
Probably 5 grand , after all it's a Cooper:happy0157:
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A little more information:
The price range for our Muzzleloaders will range from $1595.00-$3095.00. But this is still probably subject to change. The stocks are very expensive and there is a movement possibly to get it into a light weight composite Also, the actions & barrels are all either 4140 chrome Moly or 416 stainless steel. The breach plug is heat treated 416 stainless to increase life & reduce flame cutting. There is no sub par non firearms grade steel used. |
Cooper guns are first rate. That said they are going to have to really buckle down to provide a gun that will outshoot the Knight ultralight in my opinion. Ron
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Originally Posted by sabotloader
(Post 4184487)
A little more information:
The price range for our Muzzleloaders will range from $1595.00-$3095.00. But this is still probably subject to change. The stocks are very expensive and there is a movement possibly to get it into a light weight composite Also, the actions & barrels are all either 4140 chrome Moly or 416 stainless steel. The breach plug is heat treated 416 stainless to increase life & reduce flame cutting. There is no sub par non firearms grade steel used. |
Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter
(Post 4184504)
For that much money a .416 swinglock would be much better gun to have than a 1:28 twist 50 cal . Even if it is a Cooper:party0005:
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