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Old 09-21-2014, 10:20 AM
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I was disappointed when GM dropped the drop in barrels for TC. I wanted to get a 32" .58 cal round ball barrel for the Renegade. I could then dedicate all my hunting to a PRB. The 270gr round ball should be fine for elk and bear, and of course will knock the snot out of deer.

Well, I just found this today. I haven't talked to them about a price yet, but whatever it is i'll start saving for one now, and can do this over the winter.

http://www.stonewallcreekoutfitters....ement-barrels/
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Old 09-21-2014, 11:17 AM
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Muley, please let us know what you find out, as I am also interested in a replacement barrel.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:05 PM
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Thanks for passing that on Muley, I've got a hankerin' for a .58 flint barrel for one of my Renegades.

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Old 09-21-2014, 12:12 PM
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Will do.


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Old 09-21-2014, 12:51 PM
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now you have my interest... thanks Muley.
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Old 09-22-2014, 05:59 AM
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Ok, I just go off the phone with them. Very nice to talk to.

I'll talk about the good stuff first. They use Rice barrels. From all i've read they are better barrels than the GM barrel. Here's some info on the barrels.

http://www.stonewallcreekoutfitters..../rice-barrels/

The second good thing is you can send in the whole gun, and he'll fit the barrel to your stock. He has a TC Hawken and Renegade stock to fit the barrel to, but i'd prefer it was fitted to my stock. I can't believe TC made all the stocks exactly the same. However, you can just send your barrel if you'd like.

Now the not so good stuff. He uses the hardware off your old barrel. He may, or may not have a breech plug, but he'll need the rest of the hardware including sights off your old barrel. I don't plan on using the .50 anymore, so in my case it doesn't matter. I'd actually prefer to have my own sights installed.
The second negative is the barrel comes in the white. He doesn't do bluing, but i'm trying to talk him into browning mine. I wanted to brown the hardware anyway, so the barrel would have been the hard part. I can do the rest myself.
The last negative is the price. It's $400 for parts and labor. I kind of figured it would be around that when I heard he uses Rice barrels. More expensive than the old GM drop in barrel, but a better barrel. Turn around is about a month.

That's about it. I'm pretty sure i'm going to have it done. I like the idea of just one gun/load for everything. All game, plus BP shoots with .58 PRB.


btw They told me GM stopped making the drop in barrels, because TC stopped making the breech plugs. That's what GM was using. TC has really left the sidelock shooters out in the cold.
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Old 09-22-2014, 03:04 PM
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Too expensive?
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Old 09-22-2014, 04:13 PM
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Yep I tried them when they first listed that, too expensive. $400 and you provide the parts, don't think so. May as well say $500 for a barrel. Talk to Ed Cain at Cain's Outdoors. I think he charges $100 labor plus parts. With him supplying every part and not needing the gun to fit, it was $300 with a ramrod and all, ready to shoot. Dropped in fine. Also not knocking Rice barrels as they are good. GM, heck if they haven't quit making the blanks, are better out of the box with their laser engraved rifling imho. Rice takes a while for the rifling to get lapped by the patches. After that either are fine barrels. Just my 2 cents on it.
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Old 09-22-2014, 04:17 PM
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Of course you also know you can get a 50 or 54 in bad shape for cheap and send it off to Ed Rayle or Bobby Hoyt to be rebored and rifled to 58 for $100, right?
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Originally Posted by Bugflipper View Post
Of course you also know you can get a 50 or 54 in bad shape for cheap and send it off to Ed Rayle or Bobby Hoyt to be rebored and rifled to 58 for $100, right?
I thought of that, but then I have a 26" barrel. I need a longer barrel to help me see the front sight.

It's only $100? Do they have a web site?
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