Herman, check this out
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Nontypical Buck
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shot using home cast bullets made by another forum member over at HA. Mose sure makes some purdy bullets. And these are not bad shooters.


These weigh an average of 421.5 grains, lubed and ready to shoot. I' ve got to get him to send me MORE!!!
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From: Hickory NC USA
Now that is awesome.Have you shot any at 200 yds if so how much drop ?
Question,I was looking at the White site and was a little confused ,will the White 98 rifle shoot only his bullets or any other conicals or can you use the sabots and smaller bullets in it?I have never seen one around here but they are fine looking rifles.
Now I want to get this savage to shoot groups like that with the 250 gr sst .Got a few 1in groups but not any 1/2 in groups.
The way those are shooting you won' t need many to get your limit.Good luck on the upcoming season.
Question,I was looking at the White site and was a little confused ,will the White 98 rifle shoot only his bullets or any other conicals or can you use the sabots and smaller bullets in it?I have never seen one around here but they are fine looking rifles.
Now I want to get this savage to shoot groups like that with the 250 gr sst .Got a few 1in groups but not any 1/2 in groups.
The way those are shooting you won' t need many to get your limit.Good luck on the upcoming season.
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Those are actually the only three I shot. I was at my buddy' s range and his cattle came in and cut things short. I will go back soon and try some at 220 yards (his next back stop). Mose also sent me some much lighter bullets, and though the first two (I think two, there was only one hole) hit in nearly the same location on another target, the third went haywire. These 421 grainers are just amazing. Had a whole batch of bullets with me to try out but those dern cows!!! 
Nah, the White' s will shoot dern near anything. The .50 calibers are a bit touchier because they run a bit larger than some other rifles on land to land, but he .451 is just that and will shoot pretty well with about anything I' ve tried. If you are really interested in getting one, I would strongly advise the synthetic stock over the laminate and you can get a better price on a 98 by going through Gunbroker -
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/Vie...?Item=11922682 - that auction puts you in touch and you can deal a bit with those boys. The Warne bases and rings they sell are hard to beat as well.
Another fellow that might help you get a deal on one is Tom Lodge at [email protected] . Great guy to deal with and a friend after the sale.
You would be amazed at just how managable the recoil of the above load is. The 98 handles very well.

Nah, the White' s will shoot dern near anything. The .50 calibers are a bit touchier because they run a bit larger than some other rifles on land to land, but he .451 is just that and will shoot pretty well with about anything I' ve tried. If you are really interested in getting one, I would strongly advise the synthetic stock over the laminate and you can get a better price on a 98 by going through Gunbroker -
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/Vie...?Item=11922682 - that auction puts you in touch and you can deal a bit with those boys. The Warne bases and rings they sell are hard to beat as well.
Another fellow that might help you get a deal on one is Tom Lodge at [email protected] . Great guy to deal with and a friend after the sale.
You would be amazed at just how managable the recoil of the above load is. The 98 handles very well.
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Wow! And with a heavy gascheck bullet, no less! I would never have thought to use a gascheck in a muzlleloader. it appears that you are onto something here. I must try it!
What is the hardness of these bullets? Are thy pure lead, or some alloy?
What is the hardness of these bullets? Are thy pure lead, or some alloy?
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I had thought of it, but had never done it. Mose did it. Here are his descriptive words:
" I took a random sample of 20 an got an average of 421.25gr. ready to go down the barrel. It would be nice if you can recover a couple to see how the GC took to the grooves. Also I cut the Tin to 1.25% and dropped them onto a towel. They tested Saeco a weak 4 / just shy of 7 Brinell hardness."
Those three are the only ones I got to shoot and haven' t been back. Afraid I couldn' t recover any of them due to the backstop materials (dirt, rock, brick). Have no doubt they will perform well on game though. Just have to get him to make me some more.
Dan at Mountain Molds was a little disappointed.
He suggested my scope must have been loose because they should have been in one ragged hole. He may well be right (about the hole, not the scope). He really was NOT disappointed. 
One thing I' ve been thinking on is that GC' d bullets usually cut clean holes in paper. The lighter ones he sent did just that. These cut normal conical holes. Wondering if the GC didn' t slip off somewhere along the way??? Surely not.
" I took a random sample of 20 an got an average of 421.25gr. ready to go down the barrel. It would be nice if you can recover a couple to see how the GC took to the grooves. Also I cut the Tin to 1.25% and dropped them onto a towel. They tested Saeco a weak 4 / just shy of 7 Brinell hardness."
Those three are the only ones I got to shoot and haven' t been back. Afraid I couldn' t recover any of them due to the backstop materials (dirt, rock, brick). Have no doubt they will perform well on game though. Just have to get him to make me some more.
Dan at Mountain Molds was a little disappointed.
He suggested my scope must have been loose because they should have been in one ragged hole. He may well be right (about the hole, not the scope). He really was NOT disappointed. 
One thing I' ve been thinking on is that GC' d bullets usually cut clean holes in paper. The lighter ones he sent did just that. These cut normal conical holes. Wondering if the GC didn' t slip off somewhere along the way??? Surely not.




