The new 50 caliber Knight Mountaineer Ultra-Lite
09-23-2012, 05:38 AM
#13
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09-23-2012, 06:02 AM
#14
Nontypical Buck
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Your telling me I can't use a sabot in rifle season?
09-23-2012, 06:18 AM
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From the Colorado Game Laws
attached to muzzleloader during muzzleloading season.
It says sabots are prohibited during muzzleloader season so I would think you would be fine during rifle season for sure.
3. MUZZLELOA DING RIFLES
& SMOO THBO RE MUSKE TS
a. Only legal muzzleloaders allowed in muzzleloading
seasons.
b. In-line muzzleloaders are legal.
c. Must be single-barrel that fires a single round-ball or
conical projectile.
d. To hunt deer, pronghorn or bear, they must be minimum
of .40 caliber.
e. To hunt elk or moose, they must be minimum of .50
caliber.
f. From .40 caliber to .50 caliber, bullets must weigh minimum 170 grains.
g. If greater than .50 caliber, bullets must weigh minimum 210 grains.
h. Shotshell primers are legal.
i. Pelletized powder systems prohibited in muzzleloading seasons.
j. Cannot be loaded from the breech in muzzleloading seasons.
k. Only open or iron sights allowed in muzzleloading seasons. Fiber optics
and fluorescent paint incorporated into or on open or iron sights are
legal. Scopes or any sighting device using artificial light, batteries and
electronic gear are prohibited during muzzleloading seasons.
l. Sabots are prohibited in muzzleloading seasons. Cloth patches are not
sabots.
m. Smokeless powder prohibited in muzzleloading seasons. Black powder
and black-powder substitutes are legal.
n. Electronic or battery-powered devices cannot be incorporated into or
& SMOO THBO RE MUSKE TS
a. Only legal muzzleloaders allowed in muzzleloading
seasons.
b. In-line muzzleloaders are legal.
c. Must be single-barrel that fires a single round-ball or
conical projectile.
d. To hunt deer, pronghorn or bear, they must be minimum
of .40 caliber.
e. To hunt elk or moose, they must be minimum of .50
caliber.
f. From .40 caliber to .50 caliber, bullets must weigh minimum 170 grains.
g. If greater than .50 caliber, bullets must weigh minimum 210 grains.
h. Shotshell primers are legal.
i. Pelletized powder systems prohibited in muzzleloading seasons.
j. Cannot be loaded from the breech in muzzleloading seasons.
k. Only open or iron sights allowed in muzzleloading seasons. Fiber optics
and fluorescent paint incorporated into or on open or iron sights are
legal. Scopes or any sighting device using artificial light, batteries and
electronic gear are prohibited during muzzleloading seasons.
l. Sabots are prohibited in muzzleloading seasons. Cloth patches are not
sabots.
m. Smokeless powder prohibited in muzzleloading seasons. Black powder
and black-powder substitutes are legal.
n. Electronic or battery-powered devices cannot be incorporated into or
attached to muzzleloader during muzzleloading season.
It says sabots are prohibited during muzzleloader season so I would think you would be fine during rifle season for sure.
09-23-2012, 06:45 AM
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I called the DOW and I wanted to be sure I was clear. The normal restrictions for muzzleloader season don't carry over to the rifle season except one. The 50cal minimum for elk also applies for using a ML in rifle season.
You can use a scope, pellets and sabots. Even smokeless powder in rifle season, but your bullet can's be smaller than 50cal.
I know it's stupid, but that's the law.
You can use a scope, pellets and sabots. Even smokeless powder in rifle season, but your bullet can's be smaller than 50cal.
I know it's stupid, but that's the law.
09-23-2012, 06:53 AM
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I wonder how them 50 cal Lehigh DOA bullets would shoot in a .54. I might have to try them sometime and see and if they would work in a sabot.
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09-23-2012, 06:54 AM
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If i didn't already have a NULA i would really consider the Knight Ultra Light. Mine is actually a 26" barrel and has a slightly heavier contour than the standard Melvin spec build. You cant really compare the two since Melvin will build them to your specs including LOP and the other options like a Jewell trigger.
Im still in the market for a faster twist 45 that weighs close to my NULA. My Savage Pacnor 45 is a heavy beast but it convinced me a 1-22 twist works great. Its just a terrible platform for a Ultra Light build.
BTW i love that scope base. I think ive seen it somewhere before.
Im still in the market for a faster twist 45 that weighs close to my NULA. My Savage Pacnor 45 is a heavy beast but it convinced me a 1-22 twist works great. Its just a terrible platform for a Ultra Light build.
BTW i love that scope base. I think ive seen it somewhere before.