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Old 09-14-2012, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Muley Hunter View Post
I just talked to the DOW. There is no change in rifle season for muzzleloader bullet restrictions. The minimum for elk is .50 cal. I see no way to use a sabot in a .50 cal inline.

The bullet weight is easy to meet. Diameter is what's getting me.
When you called DOW did you talk to an enforcement officer? Because as I go back and read your manual page 5 it does not say that during the regular hunting season. It does indicate all that for ML season.

There is not diameter requirement during rifle season just a weight requirement.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:27 PM
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Here is what I looked at: page 12-13
http://www.flipseekpubs.com/publication/?i=96188

You cannot use a crossbow to legally hunt during the elk bow season however can use one during the rifle elk season? So this tells me that this law does not go back to bow hunting regs during rifle season??

It seems all the mumbo jumbo of no scopes/no smokeless powder/no pellets/no sabots only applies to the muzzleloading elk season. I do not or could not find where to use a muzzleloader during rifle season you must use the projectiles stated in the muzzleloading regs that apply for muzzleloader season.

Not my hunt so I will stop looking. Seems like a silly rule if its true.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter View Post
If you need a 50 cal bullet for elk then you are back to a conical because even the 54's as far as saboted bullets are not 50 cal.bullets
Not that it matters to Muley but are you sure they don't make 54x50 sabots? Ive got about a 1000 if you want to try some.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Gm54-120 View Post
Not that it matters to Muley but are you sure they don't make 54x50 sabots? Ive got about a 1000 if you want to try some.
Didn't know that. I wouldn't mind trying some for my 54 where did you get the sabots for a 50 cal bullet? Are they harvester ?
 
Old 09-14-2012, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 1874sharpsshooter View Post
Didn't know that. I wouldn't mind trying some for my 54 where did you get the sabots for a 50 cal bullet? Are they harvester ?
They are a MMP...

http://www.mmpsabots.com/purple.html

I think the ones GM has are red as mine are...
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:37 PM
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MMP makes them. There are 2 versions, one made only for Barnes (Red) and the other one (Purple) MMP sells directly. Ive got both colors.

I thought you got some with a MK85 54cal. Knight included a few with 50-325gr Speer bullets.

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Old 09-14-2012, 04:52 PM
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I'm pretty sure the only one of the ML laws that is the same in rifle season it the .50 cal restriction for elk.

Really stupid. I can legally use a .50 cal 223gr Powerbelt that would barely kill a small deer for elk. I can use a .50 cal PRB for elk.

However, I can't use a 350gr .50 cal sabot. What are they thinking?

The FPB is a thought though. I've never been able to get one down a CVA before, but I think I can with this one.

One last thought would be a .503 Thor if I can get it started.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gm54-120 View Post
MMP makes them. There are 2 versions, one made only for Barnes (Red) and the other one (Purple) MMP sells directly. Ive got both colors.

I thought you got some with a MK85 54cal. Knight included a few with 50-325gr Speer bullets.
Gee , I really feel stupid now. ( no comments)
You are right I do have a few that came with the Predator .
 
Old 09-14-2012, 05:15 PM
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If the .503 Thors are to small and you have to use a full bore conical let me know... I have an answer




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Old 09-14-2012, 05:21 PM
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If I was a cheater I could load a sabot in the barrel, and carry Thors in a speedloader to show if I got stopped, but that's not my style.

I could always hunt, and not pull the trigger. Might be hard, but I could do it. The hunt is the fun part. Hauling out the meat from a bull alone will kill me.

Just trying to come up with a plan.
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