Yes but its not hardly like you don't have a choice with anything to buy American. He didn't prove your point he proved his, He actually listed several things if not most on your list that is made in America. And electronics is a given to be made oversees and for the most part has been for some time.

Don't mix up the posts. This was the post i'm talking about.

"I'm sure we'd all like to buy all American, but it's almost impossible in these days."


The other post was a very short list. I'm sure Ron buys thousands of non American products without even knowing. I notice he skipped by his Cabelas scope, by saying it's easy to buy American scopes. Even though he didn't.

My hunting guns and gear have been American all my life. It's different with a ML. I happen to like CVA guns, and I don't like the TC inlines. The Renegade was ok, but nothing special until I replaced the barrel and trigger.

Besides, Ron can speak for himself Chad. I don't want to repeat myself twice. I know Ron will have a comeback on all this with a few insults thrown in.

Oh I'm sure Ron will have something too and it will probably be better than what I have to say. I'm not speaking for Ron but I am allowed to comment on a public forum, difference with this one is that no one is going to edit my posts. :D

Well, I did say all American. There's only one definition of "all". It's impossible to do today. Sad but true.

Even when you buy a Leupold. You get Asian glass.

Muley

The cabela scope i purchased just to see how it worked. It sorta surprised me it was as good as it was. It didn't surprise me how it wasn't as good as the optics i was used to. It was sold to a forum member long ago for his son, for less than half what i paid for it.

I assure you when i purchase most anything these day, i do what i can to know where it was made. The CVA rifle i purchased, i knowingly spent the money realizing they weren't American made. I don't not purchase something i need or want, because it isn't made in America. I enjoy the pictures i take using a camera made overseas. I am typing on a keyboard made overseas. I enjoy watching a TV made overseas. However, i do purchase American made products when i can. As i mentioned before my hunting clothes are made in America, as are my hunting rifles. The scopes were assembled in USA. Many of my tools are made in America. I understand we are part of a global economy, but sometimes i purchase American products on purpose.

My lathe, and mill were made overseas. My drillpress, jointer, and planer were made overseas. The table saw was made in America.

One humorous thing, to me anyways, i make vent liners using screws made in America. In my mind my vent liners are All American, part South Dakotan, part Connecticut. I was informed i could purchase screws with the same spec for $6 per 100, instead of the $18 per 100 i pay. My vent liners are still all American. Funny thing--they are made using machinery made overseas.

In my initial post, my point was and is, there are some people that seek to purchase American products. That is it. Period. No way did i imply foreign made rifles are inferior.

I will say my American made hammers, and hand planes, are far far superior to any foreign made i've seen and felt. Them American planes are a true thing of beauty, that feel like a million, and cut shavings one can't hardly believe. In all the years i swung a hammer, they were always American made, and they were good tool, that made me a good living.

The individual that mentioned TC rifles are American made wasn't hijacking this thread, rather he/she was bringing information to the threads initiator.

Muley, you do realize don't you, i am the fella that figured how to make CVA rifles work reliably with BH209.

Actually, i like TC rifles better than CVA rifles, just because i like them better, Yes i do.

Competition makes things better! When I was growing up, when an american automobile reached 100,000 miles it was pretty much done. Now I drive them to at least 200,000 and they still have some life left. We owe that to foreign made competition. That said, I have never owned anything but a Ford. Lots of different reasons, but my curent 4x4 has over 180,000 miles and will be heading to Colorado again with me this year. That said, if Fords went to crap or became a lot more expensive than foreign models, I would be buying a toyota.

I really like the way The Omega is designed, EXCEPT for the QLA. If I were only shooting sabots, it would be my go to gun. If Knight had not come back, I would probably now be shooting a CVA. But since they are back, I have a Knight LRH that I am happy with.

Ron,

As I said. Most of us would rather buy American. You wouldn't believe how biased I am about that. I started out hunting Woolrich hunting clothing in the 50's, because my dad told me to always buy American. It was much easier back then. No Woolrich is made overseas. It makes me sick, but I still have my 50's clothing that hasn't worn out yet.

My guns were always Winchester. A model 94 for hunting. A model 12 for trap shooting and bird hunting. I drive a Jeep. I could go on and on, but you know the story. It's a losing battle when companies continue to move overseas, or have their products made over there. I cried when Winchester had their guns made there.

I shoot CVA, because I get a deal, and I don't have a lot of money anymore. Stuff happens, and you have to roll with the punches.

180k is just beginning to get broken in. Still have our f250 with over 320k on it now.

Is that the one the shocks keep falling off of? :biggrin:

lol no thats my rodeo. They've been good so far, longest ive ever gone without having to tighten them up.