No, but all things being equal, if I WERE buying crap, it would be American made crap!

If the guns shoot the same and are the same general price, I would buy American.

One reason to consider the CVA over the T/C is if you ever want to shoot conicals. T/C makes theirs to shoot sabots only and they won't guarantee accuracy of conicals (and many of their guns will not shoot them due to the QLA)

I'm not buying American if I like something else better, and not fond of the American product.

Thanks everyone for the input. It was very helpful

The problem with this statement is that "crap" has nothing to do with anything. I would say both brands have equally there share of pros and cons. I have had a couple of each brand and I can tell you about a T/C that I had some issues with that I had fixed on my own and I can tell you about a CVA that I had issues with but never got taking care of by the company after trying with them several times.

To the OP, don't let this "chevy/ford debate" hinder you search. Go shoulder as many as you can that interest you and pick the one that picks you. Also, I wouldn't hesitate to throw Knight in the bunch. Very good quality along with the best trigger I have ever felt on a muzzleloader.

earlly

Have you considered a Knight? It will shoot both conicals and sabots... And come with a SS Green Mountain barrel...

If you have not been there might look at this thread...

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/blac...zleloader.html

It seems to me you have missed the point.

There are many folks that try to purchase American whenever it is possible. The reason they do this is not so much for the quality, but just because. Right or wrong, many feel they owe it to America, to try and keep their monies as close to home as possible. Whether or not the quality of CVA is better or worse than the quality of TC, is not the issue. The fact is, more of monies one spends on a TC product stays in country than the monies spent on a CVA product. It matters not that the CVA product may be, quality wise, as good as a TC product.

Wages earned by TC employees are mostly spent on groceries, clothing, etc. right where they live, here in America. The same cannot be said for the craftsmen that make CVA rifles; their wages are spent on groceries etc. in Spain. Some folks purchasing rifles, think of these things, and want to buy American. Because they live in America, they have the freedom to do so, and they have no wish to read about your bowel movements.

You hit the nail on the head. I agree 100% Ron

Lets not forget the employees that work at CVA here in the US.

What cars do you all drive?

Your scope?

Hunting clothing?

TV? Computer?

Etc Etc....

Lets not pick on just one item.

Master of deflection strikes again.:patriot: