A must read for 45.cal shooters
#1
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From: lexington mo
Check out this volume of the Black Powder Journal from back in 1997. It states that 45.cal is the most accuratr and effective rifle for hunting. Your thoughts? Ken 101st abn div 71-73 http://www.blackpowderjournal.com/Vo...es/bpj25-3.htm
#3
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From: chiefland Florida USA
knew that about 25 years ago,thats why they started making new and better 45s.they will be better yet.
pyrodex -pellets will be easer to get from now own also.
just my 2 cents,there are 98 more.
I am not a hunter I am a whitetail population reduction specialest
remember keep your back to the sun, your knife sharp, and your powder dry.
pyrodex -pellets will be easer to get from now own also.
just my 2 cents,there are 98 more.
I am not a hunter I am a whitetail population reduction specialest
remember keep your back to the sun, your knife sharp, and your powder dry.
#4
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From: Wa.
<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> We can use those little squirrel rifles here in Wa. for deer hunting. The state says .50 or larger for elk though. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> LOL!! Easy guys, just razzing you a little! I am sure the .45 is plenty for deer, but I am glad the state mandates .50 cal minimum for elk. B.
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From: Covington LA USA
Great article. Thanks for the tip.
I'm buying my first Black Powder Rifle. I was leaning toward a T/C Black Diamond or Knight Wolverine value pack, they are both about $300 locally. But they are also 50 caliber. Reading this I may have to reconsider, and go with the T/C Black Diamond, or Knight Super Disc in the .45 caliber.
There is a jump in price. Without actual expericence it is hard to judge. Almost like buying a scope. My $150 Simmions performs just as well for Hunting purposes as my friends $900 Pentax. I know the Pentax is a better scope but I don't think it is worth the extra cash.
How much extra performance on a Black Powder rife is needed?
The article and other postings are helping.
I'm buying my first Black Powder Rifle. I was leaning toward a T/C Black Diamond or Knight Wolverine value pack, they are both about $300 locally. But they are also 50 caliber. Reading this I may have to reconsider, and go with the T/C Black Diamond, or Knight Super Disc in the .45 caliber.
There is a jump in price. Without actual expericence it is hard to judge. Almost like buying a scope. My $150 Simmions performs just as well for Hunting purposes as my friends $900 Pentax. I know the Pentax is a better scope but I don't think it is worth the extra cash.
How much extra performance on a Black Powder rife is needed?
The article and other postings are helping.
#8
Typical Buck
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From: Wabash, IN
Irish,
Personally, I wouldn't get a .45 until the updated models come out for 2002 & have been reviewed. A lot of folks rushed down to get the latest & greatest last year & were disappointed. The combination of long, super-fast twist barrels, magnum loads, & light bullets - didn't work too well accuracy wise. The new models with the slow barrels will PROBABLY improve this.
However, I prefer the .50cals, if nothing more than the fact that there is a MUCH larger selection of bullets & other accessories available for them. In my line of thinking, if you plan on the majority of your hunting to be past 150yds - eliminate the chance element & get a 30.06 cartridge rifle.
"Every moving thing that liveth, I give unto you as meat" (Gen 9:3)
Trust God..........but keep your powder dry!
Personally, I wouldn't get a .45 until the updated models come out for 2002 & have been reviewed. A lot of folks rushed down to get the latest & greatest last year & were disappointed. The combination of long, super-fast twist barrels, magnum loads, & light bullets - didn't work too well accuracy wise. The new models with the slow barrels will PROBABLY improve this.
However, I prefer the .50cals, if nothing more than the fact that there is a MUCH larger selection of bullets & other accessories available for them. In my line of thinking, if you plan on the majority of your hunting to be past 150yds - eliminate the chance element & get a 30.06 cartridge rifle.
"Every moving thing that liveth, I give unto you as meat" (Gen 9:3)
Trust God..........but keep your powder dry!
#9
Accuracy is not a function of caliber. It is a function of quality of barrel and rifle manufacture, bullet concentricity, and UNIFORMITY OF LOADING TECHNIQUE. For example, I have a .50 hunting rifle which has a Bill Large 1/72" twist barrel. It will shoot round balls into less than 1" @ 100 yards all day long on a calm day, (from a bench, of course!!), and also have a .45 Bill Large barrel which will do the same. I also have a slow-twist Jedediah Smith Commem. Hawken .54 cal. which is almost as good, as long as I use balls which have no casting voids in them.
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From: Winslow Illinois USA
I myself can hardly wait for the T.C. Oncore to come out in a 45cal. I know that the Encore is going to be made only in the .50cal for now, but I hope they decide to make this in .45cal. soon.
I think this gun is going to make a big hit!
I think this gun is going to make a big hit!




