This is kinda disturbing...
#21
Giant Nontypical
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Hunting rabbits with beagles is a ton of fun, agree with that...But it's nothing like they hunt deer in Southeast VA and Northeast NC...
I grew up in Northeast NC, those guys throw a dozen black and tans in a cutover and run whatever come out for as long as it takes...They don't care who's land the dogs go on and will drive throught gates, ditches, crops whatever if they think they won't get caught...When the deer crosses a road, they have it lined and will shoot whatever pops out...Then they throw a fresh pack of hounds on the deer's trail and keep going...What's worse, they can spotlight at night and see what is coming out in the fields...Even if they don't have permission to hunt that land, they will put the dogs out on the road to run the deer through that farm and to a farm they can get on...
That isn't any way to deer hunt...And they sealing their own doom...
I grew up in Northeast NC, those guys throw a dozen black and tans in a cutover and run whatever come out for as long as it takes...They don't care who's land the dogs go on and will drive throught gates, ditches, crops whatever if they think they won't get caught...When the deer crosses a road, they have it lined and will shoot whatever pops out...Then they throw a fresh pack of hounds on the deer's trail and keep going...What's worse, they can spotlight at night and see what is coming out in the fields...Even if they don't have permission to hunt that land, they will put the dogs out on the road to run the deer through that farm and to a farm they can get on...
That isn't any way to deer hunt...And they sealing their own doom...
#22
Rabbit hunting with a good dog is tons of fun and really sharpens your skills.
I do have strong reservations about deer hunting with dogs. Its illegal here. It just doesn't feel right FOR ME. I went on a lion hunt and they used dogs. Not a REAL lion but a cougar or Mountain lion. Whichever you want to call it. Sit in camp until you hear they have one in a tree then shoot it out of the tree.
It just seems like a terrible way to kill such a majestic animal. Ive seen them do the same to black bear and its not for me.
I do have strong reservations about deer hunting with dogs. Its illegal here. It just doesn't feel right FOR ME. I went on a lion hunt and they used dogs. Not a REAL lion but a cougar or Mountain lion. Whichever you want to call it. Sit in camp until you hear they have one in a tree then shoot it out of the tree.
It just seems like a terrible way to kill such a majestic animal. Ive seen them do the same to black bear and its not for me.
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#23
Boone & Crockett
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From: River Ridge, LA (Suburb of New Orleans)
I've been on deer/dog hunts in my younger days and have to admit it's pretty exciting. But that was in the days when we hunted several thousand acres of free and open paper company land with no other hunters around. Everyone would pile into the back or one or two pick-ups and be dropped off at strategic standing spots and the dogs would be turned loose a quarter mile away at a predetermined time. Your blood can get pumping pretty good when a dozen hounds in full bawl are pushing toward the line of hunters.
But things aren't like that around here any more. All of the timber company land is now leased to clubs, and in much smaller plots. There are lots of roads through and between them. Naturally, the dogs don't know the boundaries of their clubs lease. The hunters are no longer satisfied with taking a stand and turning the dogs loose. It's more like a commando operation with everyone flying about in trucks with walke-talkes trying to get ahead of the drive. It's caused a lot of animosity between the few remaining dog hunting groups and other hunters. Fortunately, there are no dog hunting clubs within twenty-five miles of my club's lease.
But things aren't like that around here any more. All of the timber company land is now leased to clubs, and in much smaller plots. There are lots of roads through and between them. Naturally, the dogs don't know the boundaries of their clubs lease. The hunters are no longer satisfied with taking a stand and turning the dogs loose. It's more like a commando operation with everyone flying about in trucks with walke-talkes trying to get ahead of the drive. It's caused a lot of animosity between the few remaining dog hunting groups and other hunters. Fortunately, there are no dog hunting clubs within twenty-five miles of my club's lease.
#24
I love to hear a beagle bay.....I have just sat on the tailgate on many days, just listening to the dogs run..... I too was eight when i went out the first time with my dad and grandpa..... it's funny how a sound or smell can bring back memories, like that.....
#26
Nontypical Buck
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From: Yucca Valley,Ca
http://www.muleymadness.com/forum/vi...a9ad2f02a05ec4 it gets worse! this is what i was told when i called in late 2009. i was makink sure i knew the rules prior to applying for a tag in early 2010.. Ray
#29
Glad in Michigan it has been and probably will always be muzzle loader season.
side lock, flint or percussion. match locks, under hammers over hammers, and inlines of all types are legal.
the law yet as I know of has not ben challanged on the smoke less powder front. Rules state black poweder and or subs. To my way of thinking smoke less was the first sub for black powder.
Al
side lock, flint or percussion. match locks, under hammers over hammers, and inlines of all types are legal.
the law yet as I know of has not ben challanged on the smoke less powder front. Rules state black poweder and or subs. To my way of thinking smoke less was the first sub for black powder.
Al
#30
Back to the OP, I am curious how NV came to this decision. The Nevada Administrative Code (NAC 503.142) states that "Only black powder or a black powder substitute such as Pyrodex or Triple 7 may be used as a propellant."
It says nothing about having to be carbon based (I thought PP and T7 were sugar based?). My guess is that similarly to New Mexico, someone made a decision without really understanding the requirements. At the very least, I would hope that the makers of BH209 would actively challenge this decision.
It says nothing about having to be carbon based (I thought PP and T7 were sugar based?). My guess is that similarly to New Mexico, someone made a decision without really understanding the requirements. At the very least, I would hope that the makers of BH209 would actively challenge this decision.



Ray
