Hornady 4500 bullets
08-05-2011, 08:02 PM
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08-05-2011, 08:28 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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08-05-2011, 10:25 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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Yep lots of guys use them. They dont need to be driven hard either IIRC. The jacket is fairly thin and a lot of 45/70 data/bullets are a good match for ML speeds.
This was some data i found comparing a few 45/70 458 bullet jackets.
Speer .030 estimated because its bonded
Sierra Pro-Hunter FNHP base: .020 tip: .018
Barnes Original FN .045 Barnes SS .032
Hornady HP base: .020 tip: .015
Reminghton HP base .020 tip: .015
Use a MMP Orange or a Harvester black crushrib depending on your bore.
This was some data i found comparing a few 45/70 458 bullet jackets.
Speer .030 estimated because its bonded
Sierra Pro-Hunter FNHP base: .020 tip: .018
Barnes Original FN .045 Barnes SS .032
Hornady HP base: .020 tip: .015
Reminghton HP base .020 tip: .015
Use a MMP Orange or a Harvester black crushrib depending on your bore.
08-06-2011, 06:42 AM
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Fork Horn
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Gm,
Thanks!
I was thinkin that they would be similar to 300 Rem. 458's but I don't see a lot of guys using them. I'm going to take some to the range in my Savage ML when this heat/humidity breaks. Goin to try some RL-7 & H4198 powder with BCR sabots.
Zach
Thanks!
I was thinkin that they would be similar to 300 Rem. 458's but I don't see a lot of guys using them. I'm going to take some to the range in my Savage ML when this heat/humidity breaks. Goin to try some RL-7 & H4198 powder with BCR sabots.
Zach
08-06-2011, 07:39 AM
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Boone & Crockett
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View ALL Pro-Hunter Bullets
The traditional, flat base design of the Pro-Hunter® has been skillfully blended with Sierra's world-famous accuracy. Our custom-tapered Pro-Hunter® jacket design helps assure maximum expansion, optimum weight retention and deep penetration for game-stopping, one-shot performance.
http://www.sierrabullets.com/index.c...0&bullettype=0
THEN - I believe this to be a better production bullet, although it is not a .458... and assuming that you are shooting a 50 cal ML...
http://www.speer-bullets.com/product...g/default.aspx
http://www.speer-bullets.com/ballist...il.aspx?id=142
Last edited by sabotloader; 08-06-2011 at 07:42 AM.
08-06-2011, 10:56 AM
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Fork Horn
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Sabot,
Thats some good info.
I have tried to stay with a .458 bullet since they shoot good in my Savage ML.
I have tried the Barnes Original--$$$, Horn XTP (.452),Rem 300's,etc.
I also want to try the deep curls as well.
Looking for 300 gr punch,pass thrus/blood trails. As mentioned, most shots are 150-170 tops!
Mark
Thats some good info.
I have tried to stay with a .458 bullet since they shoot good in my Savage ML.
I have tried the Barnes Original--$$$, Horn XTP (.452),Rem 300's,etc.
I also want to try the deep curls as well.
Looking for 300 gr punch,pass thrus/blood trails. As mentioned, most shots are 150-170 tops!
Mark
08-08-2011, 12:04 AM
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Typical Buck
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Would a 300 grain .458 TMJ with a flat metplate be useful for hunting, or just for target?
Even if it didn't expand and just passed through, wouldn't a .45 wound channel be adequate to harvest deer due to having great penetration?
I thought that a flat metplate was suppose to smack hard with a fairly high shock value.
I'm just curious because I have some, but need to buy sabots.
Even if it didn't expand and just passed through, wouldn't a .45 wound channel be adequate to harvest deer due to having great penetration?
I thought that a flat metplate was suppose to smack hard with a fairly high shock value.
I'm just curious because I have some, but need to buy sabots.
Last edited by arcticap; 08-08-2011 at 12:08 AM.