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zakjak711 08-05-2011 03:23 PM

Hornady 4500 bullets
 
Was wanting to know if anyone has tried the Hornady 4500 (.458) bullets? Wanting to try them for this deer season & was curious about performance.

Thanks,
Zach

lemoyne 08-05-2011 07:18 PM

There are quite a few people using them with good performance as far as has been posted.

builder459 08-05-2011 07:55 PM

What is a 4500 hornady bullet? Ray

Semisane 08-05-2011 08:02 PM

45 Cal .458 300 gr HP

SKU: 4500 | 50/BX

builder459 08-05-2011 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Semisane (Post 3830868)
45 Cal .458 300 gr HP

SKU: 4500 | 50/BX

Thanks Semi, i already looked it up and found it on there site.. Ray

Gm54-120 08-05-2011 10:25 PM

Yep lots of guys use them. They dont need to be driven hard either IIRC. The jacket is fairly thin and a lot of 45/70 data/bullets are a good match for ML speeds.

This was some data i found comparing a few 45/70 458 bullet jackets.
Speer .030 estimated because its bonded
Sierra Pro-Hunter FNHP base: .020 tip: .018
Barnes Original FN .045 Barnes SS .032
Hornady HP base: .020 tip: .015
Reminghton HP base .020 tip: .015

Use a MMP Orange or a Harvester black crushrib depending on your bore.

zakjak711 08-06-2011 06:42 AM

Gm,

Thanks!
I was thinkin that they would be similar to 300 Rem. 458's but I don't see a lot of guys using them. I'm going to take some to the range in my Savage ML when this heat/humidity breaks. Goin to try some RL-7 & H4198 powder with BCR sabots.

Zach

sabotloader 08-06-2011 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by zakjak711 (Post 3830959)
Gm,

Thanks!
I was thinkin that they would be similar to 300 Rem. 458's but I don't see a lot of guys using them. I'm going to take some to the range in my Savage ML when this heat/humidity breaks. Goin to try some RL-7 & H4198 powder with BCR sabots.

Zach

You might take a look at the Sierra .458-300 grain bullet. I shoot that one a lot and really like the way it shoots.



View ALL Pro-Hunter Bullets

The traditional, flat base design of the Pro-Hunter® has been skillfully blended with Sierra's world-famous accuracy. Our custom-tapered Pro-Hunter® jacket design helps assure maximum expansion, optimum weight retention and deep penetration for game-stopping, one-shot performance.

http://www.sierrabullets.com/index.c...0&bullettype=0

THEN - I believe this to be a better production bullet, although it is not a .458... and assuming that you are shooting a 50 cal ML...

http://www.speer-bullets.com/product...g/default.aspx

http://www.speer-bullets.com/ballist...il.aspx?id=142

zakjak711 08-06-2011 10:56 AM

Sabot,

Thats some good info.
I have tried to stay with a .458 bullet since they shoot good in my Savage ML.
I have tried the Barnes Original--$$$, Horn XTP (.452),Rem 300's,etc.
I also want to try the deep curls as well.
Looking for 300 gr punch,pass thrus/blood trails. As mentioned, most shots are 150-170 tops!

Mark

arcticap 08-08-2011 12:04 AM

Would a 300 grain .458 TMJ with a flat metplate be useful for hunting, or just for target?
Even if it didn't expand and just passed through, wouldn't a .45 wound channel be adequate to harvest deer due to having great penetration?
I thought that a flat metplate was suppose to smack hard with a fairly high shock value.
I'm just curious because I have some, but need to buy sabots.


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