New powder
08-07-2011 | 04:16 PM
#154
Typical Buck
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From: Indianapolis, IN
CVA recommends a minimum of 50 grains, by volume, of blackpowder or blackpowder
substitute in your .45 or .50 caliber muzzleloader. The maximum load in CVA breakaction
guns, and any other CVA in-line rifle designated as a “Magnum” is 150 grains
by volume. This maximum load is generally known as the “magnum” load and is best
suited for pelletized powder due to the more efficient burning characteristics of the
powder pellets. Magnum loads of loose powder may be shot but are not recommended
because of their inefficient and incomplete burning of the powder. Some bullet
designs depend on the thrust of the powder charge to expand, or obdurate, the bullet
inside the bore for best accuracy. Loads under 50 grains cannot be depended on to
do this. In many cases lighter bullets are more sensitive to this than heavier bullets
and often require heavy powder charges to produce the best accuracy. For those
who wish to shoot moderate powder charges of 90 to 120 grains the heavier bullets
generally give better results.
sorry wrong link.......doesn't say you can't use 150grains loose, just says it is not recommended.....correct link below
http://www.cva.com/pdfs/Optima-Wolf%...n%20Manual.pdf
substitute in your .45 or .50 caliber muzzleloader. The maximum load in CVA breakaction
guns, and any other CVA in-line rifle designated as a “Magnum” is 150 grains
by volume. This maximum load is generally known as the “magnum” load and is best
suited for pelletized powder due to the more efficient burning characteristics of the
powder pellets. Magnum loads of loose powder may be shot but are not recommended
because of their inefficient and incomplete burning of the powder. Some bullet
designs depend on the thrust of the powder charge to expand, or obdurate, the bullet
inside the bore for best accuracy. Loads under 50 grains cannot be depended on to
do this. In many cases lighter bullets are more sensitive to this than heavier bullets
and often require heavy powder charges to produce the best accuracy. For those
who wish to shoot moderate powder charges of 90 to 120 grains the heavier bullets
generally give better results.
sorry wrong link.......doesn't say you can't use 150grains loose, just says it is not recommended.....correct link below
http://www.cva.com/pdfs/Optima-Wolf%...n%20Manual.pdf
08-07-2011 | 04:19 PM
#155
Typical Buck
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Indianapolis, IN
08-07-2011 | 04:19 PM
#156
Giant Nontypical
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Do not use saboted bullets weighing over 300 grains in your CVA rifle.
Do not use lead conical bullets weighing
over 400 grains in your CVA rifle.
over 400 grains in your CVA rifle.
ONLY USE BLACKPOWDER RATED AS
“FFG” IN YOUR CVA BREAK ACTION RIFLE
“FFG” IN YOUR CVA BREAK ACTION RIFLE
Hmmm i still see restrictions i dont have with my others and they shoot fine in them.
Hell a 400gr is just getting started with a 50cal conical. 
Last edited by Gm54-120; 08-07-2011 at 04:51 PM.
08-07-2011 | 04:20 PM
#157
Banned
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 9,186
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From: Boncarbo,Colorado
CVA recommends a minimum of 50 grains, by volume, of blackpowder or blackpowder
substitute in your .45 or .50 caliber muzzleloader. The maximum load in CVA breakaction
guns, and any other CVA in-line rifle designated as a “Magnum” is 150 grains
by volume. This maximum load is generally known as the “magnum” load and is best
suited for pelletized powder due to the more efficient burning characteristics of the
powder pellets. Magnum loads of loose powder may be shot but are not recommended
because of their inefficient and incomplete burning of the powder. Some bullet
designs depend on the thrust of the powder charge to expand, or obdurate, the bullet
inside the bore for best accuracy. Loads under 50 grains cannot be depended on to
do this. In many cases lighter bullets are more sensitive to this than heavier bullets
and often require heavy powder charges to produce the best accuracy. For those
who wish to shoot moderate powder charges of 90 to 120 grains the heavier bullets
generally give better results.
sorry wrong link.......doesn't say you can't use 150grains loose, just says it is not recommended.....correct link below
http://www.cva.com/pdfs/Optima-Wolf%...n%20Manual.pdf
substitute in your .45 or .50 caliber muzzleloader. The maximum load in CVA breakaction
guns, and any other CVA in-line rifle designated as a “Magnum” is 150 grains
by volume. This maximum load is generally known as the “magnum” load and is best
suited for pelletized powder due to the more efficient burning characteristics of the
powder pellets. Magnum loads of loose powder may be shot but are not recommended
because of their inefficient and incomplete burning of the powder. Some bullet
designs depend on the thrust of the powder charge to expand, or obdurate, the bullet
inside the bore for best accuracy. Loads under 50 grains cannot be depended on to
do this. In many cases lighter bullets are more sensitive to this than heavier bullets
and often require heavy powder charges to produce the best accuracy. For those
who wish to shoot moderate powder charges of 90 to 120 grains the heavier bullets
generally give better results.
sorry wrong link.......doesn't say you can't use 150grains loose, just says it is not recommended.....correct link below
http://www.cva.com/pdfs/Optima-Wolf%...n%20Manual.pdf
Not because of safety. BUT because of the poor ability to burn that amount of powder.
08-07-2011 | 04:28 PM
#158
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Feb 2011
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From: Colorado
All CVA Break-Action In-Lines are capable of handling a "magnum"
powder charge of up to 150-grains when using pelletized powder (typically
charges of loose powder exceeding 110 grains by volume will not fully burn
powder charge of up to 150-grains when using pelletized powder (typically
charges of loose powder exceeding 110 grains by volume will not fully burn
in the barrel). Such "magnum" loads should never be fired in other CVA In-
Lines that do not feature the one-piece Monoblock barrel design.
Lines that do not feature the one-piece Monoblock barrel design.
From a cva owners manual.....
Also does not list BH209 as a safe propellant for cva barrels....and states the max load for looase powder in 100gr. and only 150gr. loads in pellet form.....
http://www.cva.com/pdfs/CVA%20Optima...arr%20Book.pdf