Mountaineer prototype has arrived.
 

When I opened up the box I was really surprised. I in no way expected this kind of quality and workmanship. Then after taking the gun apart and taking some pictures I realized how much time and effort went into making this Muzzleloader.

The recoil pad is awesome, probably the best I have ever seen on a factory Muzzleloader. I will compare that to the pad on The Triumph because I really like that one as well. This is a huge upgrade from elite/extreme pads in the past.

The stock on this Muzzleloader is second to none. Of all the Knights,TC’S,Savages,and CVA’S, I have owned this stock is just in another class. Knight has not skimped at all on this Mountaineer.

The Easton ram rod is light years ahead of what was being offered in the past by Knight Rifles. I just wish they would of never sold the Power Rods to T/C.

The Stainless barrels feel like they have been waxed. They are very smooth and look awesome. The new coating by DynaTek bore coating is on the outside of the barrel as well as inside. If this stuff holds up, it will be far superior to the weathershield that T/C is offering now. This new coating also eliminates most of the nasty crud ring most of us have with using 777 powder. Another thing to mention is, no matter what powder you use, only windex is needed to clean the bore. No more lead or plastic fouling being a problem. I can’t wait to test this feature myself.

The bolts and breech plugs are beautifully machined. No more cheap soft breech plugs either. All Knight rifle breech plugs will come BH209 compatible in all the new Muzzleloaders. And as most already know, Lehigh is making almost all the parts for these Muzzleloaders. And all the new Knight Rifles will be 100% made in the USA.

I can honestly say, I’m really comparing this gun to my custom NULA that sales for $1400.00 bucks today. The Mountaineer is a true high quality Muzzleloader. I will also say it won’t be for everyone. This gun was obviously made for the guy that wants nothing but the best.
For those people that want to see these Muzzleloaders they will be at the NRA show on display in Pittsburgh PA on April 29th thru May 1st At the Knight Rifles booth. http://www.nraam.org/events/events_main.html Also at that show will be Lehigh Defense. http://lehighdefense.com/ They make the bolts and breech plugs and most of the parts for the Mountaineer and other Knight Rifles now.

I also want to congradulate the entire Knight Rifles team. This is a job very well done. I'm glad to see Jeff (owner) is demanding such high quality products.

I plan on shooting this ML this weekend. I took some pictures and will have more up by the weekend if the weather is good.

dude send that gun to me, i'll take some good pictures of it! :D

nice rifle though, how much does it weigh with the lam. stock?

I'd like to have seen 2 ramrod thimbles on it as well.

I will get some good pics for sure. I will weigh the gun on my trigger scale tonight. It felt right around 7 lbs.

grouse, great looking gun it would look really nice next to the few Knight I have. If you get tired of it I'll give it a good home.

Grouse is that rifle built to shoot conicals or sabots? Nice looking rifle. I like the fluted barrel.

He's not quite the advertising expert you are MD, but I guess you have to start somewhere.

one of them new fangled upside down guns.
Is that trigger the same as what was in the disc rifles?

Grouse,

What size is the firing pin diameter and did they add a second mounting screw?

Sorry, they are upside down on purpose. Yes, it's a Timney trigger.

Firing pin is visable the same, and no second screw.

I never will be either. Just a normal everyday hunter.

a normal every day hunter with a prototype muzzle loader! :D sorry couldnt help myself.

euhhhh!! I want one!!

Jealousy will get you nowhere.

oh i wouldnt go that far :D i have one now that has to be covered whenever i am at a local range.

Nice looking rifle there Grouse. But it sure ain't no CVA.......(hehehehehe) :)

I have a number of traditional rifles but only one inline. And that's an old Knight. Switched it over from a #11 ignition to a 209, it has a horrible trigger, but it still shoots fantastic. And the $50 I paid for it is probably a bit less than your's cost.

Don't worry, your not the only one. When people see this gun, most will want it. But not everyone for sure.

I have already suggested a #11 ignition system for this ML. Sabotloader has a great idea and should be submitting it real soon.

Actually another smart move on Knights part. I wont tell them what they want to hear. I will tell them the way it actually is. No banners,Web-sites or monies for me to worry about. Sorry couldn't help myself.:wink:

looks very good time for some shooting did the case come with it

Yes the case did come with it. I also forgot i'm headed to Ohio this weekend for Spring Turkey season on Monday. I'll take hunting over shooting any day.

Even with those sorry pics you sure know how tease us. Do you know if its 100% American made?

Thats the interesting part, What on the gun does knight actually make?

knight takes the time to put it all together and have very good companys making all the parts all america made parts buy yourself a new keyboard and send the bill to MD and to jaybez :happy0001::happy0001::happy0001:

Isn't that muzzleloader run about 900 bucks? It would be nice, but if its around that price range its too rich for my blood right now. My wife would cut my manhood and then slowly kill me.

I would think it would shoot conicals as good as any other Knight ML.

And which gun does BPI actually make???

Couple of thoughts Dave, my Knight 50's shoot 460 Bull Shops great and the barrels on the new Knights are the same... I really did not want them to be the same but Green Mountain over ruled me so they remain 1/28 instead of 1/24... Also Knight won a few Friendship shoots - shooting conicals.

The fluted barrel should be a real advantage for BH shooters as the fluting really aid in dissapating heat from the barrel and I believe that BH creates more heat than any other powder?

good thing this is a knight sabotloader!! So what does knight actually make on the gun? I never read a straight answer anywhere about that.

Knight actually makes nothing. They do weld the recoil lugs on and assamble the guns.

Knight makes nothing, which is reflected in there prices IMHO. but the product is top shelf. BPI is a smart company if nothing else,buying up company's so all there rifle parts are covered under there umbrella. which means higher profits. it also doesn't hurt when you spend very little on R&D, since they copy most of what they make lol. Ray

I am not sure they make anything on the actual gun, they coordinated and assemble. But they did make the decision to go all american.

And yet i do not understnd the reason for the question... most products today are made by a conglomeration of manufactures and brought together into a completed project and this case with Night being responsible for the procurement on quality parts to make a quality rifle.

You do not actually think your chronograph is built be one company do you???

oh i was just wanting to know if they made anything or if it was just contractors that made the parts for the guns.

my chronograph gets high praise from randy wakeman!! So im floating on air when i read his review and then scratch my rear end and go, wait a second! Hes praising a product that has faulty electronics! LOL.

"And yet i do not understnd the reason for the question"
Sabotloader I only asked because if possible I like to support AMERICANS. It's very hard today but I do my best. Its sad how we are transforming from a country of production to more of a service country. It's very nice to know KNIGHT supports american business and keeps it within our borders.:patriot:

Just for clarity, and I am not saying the Knight triggers aren't ok, but I don't think Knight has used a true Timney trigger since the mk-85s. Since then they have referred to it as either a "timney style" trigger or a Knight trigger.
The ones on the mks are a notch above.
Art

You could be right. I thought all my Elites were Timney triggers. The Mountaineer is a Timney trigger.

MD, I was just wondering which KNIGHT you have, I might have room for ONE more. I've never had to cover one up at the range, most of the time everyone want to shoot my KNIGHT instead of there own ML.

I am really looking forward to seeing one of these in person.
Grouse, Is Knight actively building a dealer network?
Art

I certainly can not speak for Knight or Tom, but whether a dealer network gets built is really dependent on us... the consumer. If Knight can create the demand then dealers will want to handle the product. In my opinion Knight has sort of a uphill battle creating a market for their products. Most importantly they have to create a demand and along with that they have to create a trust actually it might be better put they need to restore a trust.

One thing i really believe they are trying...

Jay, I totally understand your question... it makes very good sense... I just wondered why the queen of CVA would ask if Knight actually built anything??? Knowing that BPI/CVA doesn't build their products either, they contract out to the lowest bidder.